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Will Caleb become like WILLIAM (Man in Black) ???

posted 3 years ago by joi2049 (5584)
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Since Ep 2 of S4 ends with Caleb and Maeve having arrived on a train at the NEW PARK, is it possible CALEB will follow the same PATHWAY as the younger William did before him???

Note the way the HOSTESS FLIRTS with CALEB the same way as the other one did with the younger William when he first arrived in WESTWORLD.

And Maeve also SHOOS her away by saying he could "pull up his own trousers" and didn't require her services.

But what happens if Caleb gets separated from Maeve and she isn't there to look out for him???

And he also didn't look like he wasn't interested in the proposition to have sex (even though he also claims to love the other family that he's left behind).

So imagine Caleb falling in love with someone like DOLORES while he's there in the NEW PARK, then getting upset after finding her ROLLING a CAN (or maybe a tube of lipstick) for some other man. Then he goes home, and keeps coming back again several more times ... just like the case was with the MAN in BLACK.

And perhaps MAEVE will also keep WARNING HIM not to get ROMATICALLY involved (the same way as LOGAN warned William not to be involved with DOLORES)???

Hopefully HECTOR and SNAKE GIRL will also show up again to ROB a SAFE from someplace. Only this time they'll be in a 1920's style car instead of on horseback and have MACHINE GUNS for weapons???

That way MAEVE can also see the love of her life again. And YES I also remember how Hector's PEARL got destroyed, but maybe Hector also went to the VALLEY BEYOND (to "The Robot Heaven") after that where BERN was also able to RESTORE him back to life again???

If this theory is correct, that could also mean the other woman kills herself after finding out what Caleb's been doing in the NEW PARK. And Caleb would also eventually end up killing his daughter Frankie (the young girl that we meet this season when Caleb was teaching her how to shoot the CANS) ... because the Man in BLACK also killed his daughter EMILY.

YES?

NO???

MAYBE SO???

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[–] joi2049 (5584) 3 years ago

At the 3 min TIME FRAME in this video we can see CALEB is the one who PICKS UP a ROLLING CAN:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypLwF0VkD7Q

WESTWORLD Season 4 Episode 3 Trailer Breakdown, Theories & Predictions

But we also don't see the FACE of the person who drops it.

Then at the 9:25 TIME FRAME we also see the face of what might be CALEB's GROWN UP DAUGHTER (which could also indicate she's going to have the SAME FATE as William's daughter EMILY ... meaning she'll be killed by CALEB who will at some point assume she's not HUMAN).

Or perhaps this person could also be the now GROWN UP daughter of MAEVE???

Anyone else have any other theories or predictions you'd care to share???

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[–] ExTechOp (2770) 3 years ago

Wouldn't have been my prediction(s), though it's easy to say now that ep3 has aired.

Caleb was expressly prevented from picking up imitation-Delores/Wyatt's can by Maeve -- she doesn't want him falling into the Golden Age's narratives.

But my take on it is: Caleb's always been the opposite of William. He doesn't come from privilege, but he always/usually makes the correct/moral choice (i.e., not to be like "those rich assholes" who abuse the hosts).

[–] joi2049 (5584) 3 years ago

As I recall William also didn't come from a privileged background either, but married his way into it by dating the daughter of his BOSS (James Delos).

Therefore, at least in theory, Caleb could also work his way up the same way as William did ( if something were to happen to the mother of FRANKIE)???

The other question would be is the DOLORES COPY in the NEW PARK a HUMAN or HOST??? Because isn't the idea also to ABUSE the HUMANS in the PARK the same way as the HUMANS previously ABUSED the HOST???

So if the COPY was a HOST, then WHY would Charlotte/Dolores ABUSE a HOST COPY of DOLORES in this NEW PARK???

Due to the way CALEB didn't reply back to the other GIRL who tried to seduce him by offering to help him get dressed, my guess is he's just as vulnerable as the younger William was when he first arrived in Westworld back in S1.

Because without MAEVE to keep him from getting seduced, it seems like he might be all too willing to get seduced due to the way he reacted to the first offer of seduction before he even entered the PARK.

And with MAEVE captured by the MAN in BLACK, it also looks like CALEB might be left alone or be without her if he escapes and tries to HIDE in the PARK???

[–] joi2049 (5584) 2 years ago

Caleb's always been the opposite of William. He doesn't come from privilege, but he always/usually makes the correct/moral choice

Here's a REVIEW of Ep 6 that suggests Hale's going to change CALEB into an immoral character that's just as EVIL as William (even though one could also argue to say that he was mostly OUT of his MIND at the time when he kills his daughter EMILY). Anyhow, it also suggests that HALE's going force CALEB to kill his own daughter like William did when he went insane from spending too much time in the PARK:

https://thecinemaholic.com/westworld-season-4-episode-6-recap-and-ending-explained/

When Caleb makes it clear that her hosts aren’t infected as she believes, Hale realizes that she had known everything he can offer her. Thus, she kills every copy of Caleb.
Caleb’s response to her question regarding the hosts’ mass suicide is the last thing Hale wants to know

The new version of Caleb can be a weapon Hale creates to fight and win the battle against the outliers.

Since Caleb informs Frankie that he is alive, Hale knows that Frankie and the rest of the outliers will try to save him from her custody. She may step away from the outliers’ path and let them save the new Caleb, who is possibly a vicious soldier of Hale in the appearance of Caleb like the version of William AKA the Man in Black is

The new Caleb may infiltrate Frankie’s group to find out how they are paving the way for the hosts’ suicides. Hale may even be aspiring to kill Frankie and the rest of the outliers using the new Caleb.

Perhaps that's also the ANSWER that HALE is looking for and the reason why she keeps producing HOST COPIES of CALEB???

And maybe the reason why her HOSTS keep killing themselves is because they've also spent too much TIME inside of the PARK like William did, and they've also reached the point where they can't tell anymore what's REAL or NOT REAL???