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Possible explanations for some names in "Hail, Caesar!"


A thread to speculate on the probable origin (or meaning) of certain (fictitious) character/film/song/... names in "Hail, Caesar!".
Feel free to contribute.

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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0475290/board/thread/254982266?p=2&d=264190611#264190611
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Antoninus & Laurence:
In "Spartacus" (1960) Crassus (Laurence Olivier) attempts to seduce his house slave Antoninus. According to Thora Thacker's story Baird Whitlock, who plays Autolycus Antoninus in "Hail, Caesar: A Tale of the Christ", got his first major part in "On Wings as Eagles" by engaging in sodomy with the picture's director Laurence Laurentz. The only time Baird Whitlock's character is called "Antoninus" is in the direction for the revel scene: "...and in comes Antoninus, lots of energy!" "Action!" and in comes Antoninus, inadvertently pricking a male house slave with his sword...

Autolycus:
- In Greek mythology Autolycus was Ulysses' grandfather. In "O Brother, Where Art Thou?" George Clooney played the Ulysses character.
- Autolykos = the wolf itself. According to the Roman founding myth, Romulus and Remus have been nurtured by a she-wolf.
- Autolycus (like his grandson Odysseus) was a master of trickery, he "loved to make white of black, and black of white". The Dane to Tom Reagan in "Miller's Crossing": "Mister Inside-Out-ski, like some goddamn Bolshevik picking up his orders from Yegg Central. You think you're so goddamn smart. You join up Johnny Caspar, you bump Bernie Bernbaum. Up is down. Black is white." An inspiration for "Miller's Crossing" was "The Glass Key", of which a poster is seen in "Hail, Caesar!".
- One of Autolycus' skills was playing the lyre. In the revel scene Autolycus accidently pricks the extra who plays the lyre.

Thora & Thessaly Thacker:
- Thora: the Jewish Thora, the Christian Old Testament
- Thessaly: the Epistles to the Thessalonians from the New Testament. Thessaly about Thora: "She wouldn't know a new story if it bit her on the posterior."
- Thacker: Thackeray, author of (the book Kubrick's) "Barry Lyndon" (is based upon)

On Wings as Eagles:
- According to the credits of Cecil B. DeMille's "The Ten Commandments", one of the sources providing material for the film was "On Eagle's Wings" by Reverend A.E. Southon.

DeeAnna Moran & Joseph Silverman:
- A possible hint at the nativity story, with the uncertainty about the child's father. The child is adopted by Joseph, Anna (Saint Anne) was Mary's mother.

The song "No Dames" (performed by Channing Tatum):
- A reference to the song "There Is Nothing Like A Dame" in "South Pacific" (1958).

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Great post! Thanks!


I'm English, and if there's anything more deplorable than our cooking, it's our lovemaking

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You're welcome.
Two further items:

Autolycus (one more...):
- Autolycus is also known as prince of thieves. The emotional climax of "Hail, Caesar! A Tale of the Christ" is Autolycus' speech on the feet of the penitent thief.

C.C. Calhoun:
- The Merry Widow Waltz editor C.C. Calhoun put on the dailies of "Merrily We Dance" is a musical reference to Hitchcock's "Shadow of a Doubt". "Shadow of a Doubt" with the two Charlies: C.C.
- Rory Calhoun: television and film actor, star of some B-Westerns. If one takes e.g. a look at "Ride Out for Revenge" (1957) one might get the idea that parallels are implied between the two "red scares", Indian and Communist. Also in 1955 his agent Henry Willson disclosed information about Calhoun's years in prison to Confidential magazine in exchange for the tabloid not printing an exposé about the secret homosexual life of Rock Hudson, another Willson client, which reminds a bit of the deal Eddie Mannix makes with Thora Thacker.

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I thought the speech was at the feet of Jesus. (The one we never see.)

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Yes, but in his conversation with Mannix the film's producer calls it "the speech at the feet of the penitent thief". I think it's a joke along the line of Jesus Christ being an extra, in a story conveying a Christian message: even the climactic scene is named after another character/extra, Jesus sort of degraded to the extra of an extra in his own story.

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London is now considered the food capital of the world much to the chagrin of the French as for lovemaking I don't have a problem maybe you should see someone about yours.

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Haha!

Someone touched a nerve? "Methinks the 'lady' protesteth too much."

:D

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Mannix is based on a real person called Mannix but can be seen as Man X, man of the cross.

Capitol is a triple pun - the Roman capitol, Das Kapital (Marx) and capital as in chief city.

Laurence Lorentz might be partly referring to Laurence Olivier.

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Laurence Lorentz might be partly referring to Laurence Olivier.

Marathon Man (1976)
Laurence Laurentz, repeatedly pronouncing the line "would that it were so simple" to Hobie Doyle; like Szell (Laurence Olivier), repeatedly asking Babe "is it safe?", and remarking that he is a fanatic about spoken language.

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Todd Hocheiser (the actor playing Jesus):
- Hocheiser references (the Hocheisers of) "Where's Poppa?", a question of particular relevance concerning Christ Jesus.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where's_Poppa%3F
- Mike Todd: theater and film producer. He was the driving force behind the development of Todd-AO, one of a number of widescreen film formats created in the 1950s, the first (commercially successful) 70mm film format (65mm image track, 6-track magnetic stereo sound and a frame rate of 30 fps used in the first two productions "Oklahoma" & "Around the World in Eighty Days"). (*) The (fictitious) movie "Lazy Ol' Moon" is supposed to have been shot in VistaVision, Paramount's large format process, which has also been used by other studios for some movies (e.g. Warner Brother's "The Searchers", MGM's "High Society").
(*) In the 1930s there has already been a short-lived 70mm widescreen format developed for Fox: "Fox Grandeur".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Todd
http://www.widescreenmuseum.com/widescreen/index.htm

Burt Gurney:
- "Gurney" might come from the title character's name "Joe Gurney" in "King of the Underworld", played by Humphrey Bogart.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0031536/

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Burt Gurney may also reference "Burt & Ernie," the pals in "It's a Wonderful Life" and more recently on TV, "The Muppet Show."

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Character names of "Merrily We Dance"
Allegra:
- female given name of Italian origin meaning joy (happy), lively (suiting the "Merry Widow Waltz")
Dierdra:
- tragic heroine in Irish legend
Biff:
- The bully's name from "Back to the Future". No coincidence, considering how often the word "future" is (in a significant way) used in "Hail, Caesar!" ("you have to think about the future", "we are 'The Future'"), including a line that would suit a time travel movie: "Someone from 'The Future' is calling you."
Monty:
- The scene with Monty and Dierda may seem like from a generic drawing-room melodrama, but I'm pretty sure that it's particularly inspired by the scene in Hitchcock's "Rebecca", where Joan Fontaine and her employer Mrs. Van Hopper meet Mr. de Winter (Laurence(!) Olivier) in Monte(!) Carlo. Mrs. Van Hopper makes a big fuss about "Monty", while Joan Fontaine is not very impressed by "Monty". Mrs. Van Hopper: "She's spoilt. That's her trouble. Most girls would give their eyes for a chance to see 'Monty'." Well, it seems Allegra isn't one of those girls. Also, Mrs. Van Hopper asks Mr. de Winter: "Are you playing the tables much here at 'Monty'?" Deirdra to Monty: "I'll partner you in bridge."

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Monty:
- One of the real-life inspirations for Hobie Doyle is Tim Holt, who was cast against type in a "dinner jacket role" in "The Magnificent Ambersons" (1942), where, in the horseless carriage snow ride scene with the nostalgic iris wipe at the end, the cast sings "The Man Who Broke the Bank at Monte Carlo", a song also sung in "Lawrence(!) of Arabia" (1962) by T.E. Lawrence, who in "A Dangerous Man: Lawrence After Arabia" (1992) was played by a young Ralph Fiennes.

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Baird/Burt:
In "The Stunt Man" (1980), stunt man Burt is replaced by someone who isn't a stunt man. In "Hail, Caesar!", actor Baird Whitlock is replaced by his stunt double, who can't act. Burt Gurney (like Gene Kelly (*), which isn't explicitly stated but may be assumed) does his own stunts.
(*) as pointed out by Fred Astaire in "That's Entertainment" (1974)

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Burt Gurney:
- In "The Ruling Class" (1972), Jack Gurney, 14th Earl of Gurney (Peter O'Toole), who thinks he's Jesus Christ, mentions "Bert/Burt" as one of the names he prefers to be called by. Due to him stating that "pride and riches, pomp and property all must be lopped off" and that "love makes all men equal", his uncle Charles considers him to be a "Bolshie" (=Bolshevik).
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069198/

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Moran/Silverman:
Dolores Moran:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolores_Moran
- Via Dolorosa
- Moran's last film was "Silver Lode", a Western smuggling some more or less hidden "Red Scare" content (the villains name: McCarty).

Akron (where Jesus actor Todd Hocheiser comes from):
"Todd Hocheiser. Wonderful young actor we found in Akron, Ohio, in a nationwide talent hunt."
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069198/movieconnections?ref_=tt_ql_trv_6#spoofed_in
14th Earl of Gurney: "It was Sunday, August 25th, at 3:32. I heard a terrible thunderclap and saw a body of light like the light from the sun and red as fire. I cried 'Hallelujah Lord! What will you do?' But the light vanished. Blackness and darkness, until a great brush dipped in light swept across the sky, and I saw the diversity, distinction and varity all clearly rolled up into the unity of universal love."
His aunt: "Where did all this happen?"
14th Earl of Gurney: "East Acton, outside the public urinal."
Baird Whitlock's room number on the studio lot is 14.
Thus linking Burt Gurney, Todd Hocheiser and Baird Whitlock.

Whitlock:
Tchoutoye wrote:

On the topic of the blonde Jesus/mermaid/Gurney, the origin of the name Whitlock is "someone with white or fair hair", from Middle English whit ‘white’ + lock ‘curl’.

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"Baird Whitlock": Bill Baird was a famous puppeteer. Baird Whitlock is a puppet in the hands of the Hollywood system and the Communists?

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Seems to make sense. With the proximity to "Burt" as welcome side effect. Thanks for your contribution!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bil_Baird
"He and his wife Cora Eisenberg Baird produced and performed the famous puppetry sequence for 'The Lonely Goatherd' in the film version of 'The Sound of Music'." (filmed in Todd AO)
By the way: "How do you solve a problem like Maria? How do you hold a moonbeam in your hand?" Curly's problem in "Lazy Ol' Moon". Curly, another "Whitlock" = "white curl". ;-)

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Judy Canova:
Baird Whitlock to Herb Marcuse: "But Judy Canova was there and she knows Norman. She says 'Danny's not doing a Norman Taurog picture. He just wants you to shave his back.'"
"Broadway Danny Rose" (1984)
Theatrical manager Danny Rose handles his clients' problems, like Eddie Mannix the problems of the stars of Capitol Pictures. He once met Judy Garland, likes Danny Kaye and Lou Canova is his client.
Judy Garland & Norman Taurog working together in: The Wizard of Oz (1939), Little Nellie Kelly (1940), Girl Crazy (1943), Presenting Lily Mars (1943), Ziegfeld Follies (1945), Words and Music (1948).
So "Judy Canova" may be a coded nod to Judy Garland.

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So "Judy Canova" may be a coded nod to Judy Garland


Why would you use the name of one real actress to as a "code" to the name of another? It makes no sense.

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I missed out on the fact that Judy Canova is a real actress. Lack of research on my part. Sorry... :(
But the "Broadway Danny Rose" connection might still be plausible. Just discard the last two sentences. ;)
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Judy Canova on the show of George Clooney's aunt Rosemary:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PIxPuYJFFM&feature=youtu.be&t=844

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