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Stop demonizing the Russians.


Hollywood loves to beat on the Russians. XXX, Eastern Promises, Training Day, John Wick, The Equalizer, and many other films feature Russian mercenaries or mobsters as villains. If you count other peoples from Eastern Europe, you can add Taken, The Dark Knight, Lord of War, and The Drop, and the series Banshee to that list.

The U.S. government loves to beat on them too. Lots of shady stuff going on with NGOs like Freedom House and such encouraging color coded revolutions. I don't defend Putin at all, mind you, or what has happened in Georgia, Crimea, and the Donbas. However, if Russia is a snake, then the U.S. government has done everything it can to provoke it into striking. The British government has sheltered several high profile oligarchs after they have fallen out of favor in Russia. Two of the more notorious ones owned Chelsea FC. Do you really think that these people are any less ruthless than Putin in kind, if not degree?

I think we have a disconnect between fantasy and reality here. Russian mobsters exist, and they can be nasty. However, they commit crimes that are a drop in the bucket compared to what America's own citizens do. I want every person who reads this article to look at the FBI's most wanted list. Then check the US Marshalls List for each state. Check your local Sheriff's office. Those lists are packed with lots of Blacks, a good number of Hispanics, a few Asians, and very many native born, white Americans. I guarantee that you will find very few Russians. Simeon Mogilevich, a crooked financier, is the only one who comes to mind as a wanted Russian fugitive in the FBI list. I recently found one Ukrainian woman on the NJ State Police most wanted list. She is there for kidnapping her own daughter, which I assume is related to a custody dispute or some other relationship BS. I haven't seen anyone else from anywhere in Eastern Europe on one of the federal lists for a very long time.

Why is this? Because Russians, statistically speaking, do not cause much crime in America. Native-born Whites, American Blacks, and Hispanics of various origin cause almost all (99.99%) crime in America. I would venture to say that Eastern European immigrants are some of the most law abiding and hardest working of all Americans.

Call me racist or nationalist or whatever, but I swear to god that I am telling it as it is. Look in the mirror first before you condemn a group of people for their leadership or for the spaces of a few.

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Oh, political correctness eh? They are an "off limits" protected class that can't be fictional bad guys in movies huh? Has someone been "offended"? Oh dear, call the press, someone else has been offended, what will we ever do.

Ban Air Force One, pull it from the shelves. It is full of "anti Russian" hate. Bring up the writers and directors on hate crime charges. Someone else has been offended. Scratch another word or topic of your list of things you can say or do lest someone get offended. We can't stand for that.


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I know quite a few Russians in Florida and I have to say a great percentage of them are involved with the mob or in shady dealings of some sort. My friend employee's a lot of them in his construction business - they are great carpenters. While most of those guys may not be mob, you wouldn't want your daughter dating them. They are grown men who drink until falling down, fight everyone in the bars and their weekend is not complete unless they are being bailed out Monday Morning. I ask him and others if there are any regular Russians ad he said some of their wives are nice people. Even the store owners do all kind of shady dealings on the side. I'm not exaggerating when I say this. I have asked ones I have known well and they say you had to be in Russia or you wouldn't survive. Everyone deals with the black market to stay afloat. Its their way of life. The Russian mob is big in Florida. They own half the strip clubs and they operate their mob doings out the clubs.They are big in Credit Card Fraud also.
Its just the facts.

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It's the Russian MAFIA, ofcourse they are bad guys. Doesn't mean all Russians are like this.

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So you admit there are nasty Russian gangsters but they shouldn't be portrayed in films? Okay.

What we got here is... failure to communicate!
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Why not? There's been a lot of brutality in Russia for ages.

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The reasons the Russian mob have become a popular subject are:
1) the Chinese triads have been overworked, and
2) so have Islamic extremists.

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