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This was NOT a remake.

posted 11 years ago by xMichaelWood
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Okay, well it started out to be that way. But it ended up in a totally different category. That category being... well I don't know. But the only similarities this film has to the original BC is that it involves sorority girls, and a murderer. If you watch this film without involving the original, then it's actually pretty amazing. There hasn't been a horror film like this in a very long time. I know that Glen isn't happy with the final product, and that's understandable(after what happened after initial filming). But this film is picking up steam as the years go on. Just look at the DVD sales. This has a HUGE following! It evolved into something more than the original was, right after it was released into theaters. And people are showing their love for this film. This film isn't a remake gone horribly wrong. Black Christmas (2006) has it's own legs! It's an incredibly awkward and different story than has ever been told before. This movie has LEGS of it's own! The cinematography of this movie is incredible! It's the ONLY movie out there, that feels so much like Christmas, yet lives in a completely different category than most Christmas films. This film has amazing actresses that are well known, and I hope that this turns out to be the film they look back on, and while right now it might not be a highlight in their careers, but in the future, it WILL BE. Only time will tell..

I love this film and I think it definitely deserves more credit than it receives. And I think most TRUE HORROR fans agree.
- M. WOOD

[–] ScorpionTDC 11 years ago

And that the killers name is Billy. And that it happens on Christmas eve. And that the house mom is named Mrs. Mac. And that Billy calls and threatens the girls. And the presence of an "Agnes." And the fact Lauren is Barb 2.0. And the fact Lauren's death is like Barb's from the original.

Nope, not similar at all :/

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[–] xMichaelWood 11 years ago

yes. All valid points. :P

- M. WOOD

[–] ScorpionTDC 11 years ago

Also don't see how it's "something more than the original." Yeah, it's got something of a following, but the following is nowhere near as strong as that of the original AND it's nowhere near as important to the horror genre (Since the original influenced Halloween)

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[–] xMichaelWood 11 years ago

I do own the original and yes it has a huuuge following. It's really one of the first slasher films. I know this. "Something more than the original" in a way that it's a completely different film than the original!

- M. WOOD

[–] ScorpionTDC 11 years ago

It's not a completely different film for all the reasons I said. And a lot of its changes (The backstory) were for the worse

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[–] merickson83 11 years ago

It's a bad movie, but I'm glad they did something different, so at least it's a bad movie that entertained me rather than just being an inferior imitation of the original, which it was obviously doomed to be from the start.

[–] ChristmasStan 8 years ago

The film was terrible. The original was 10x better

[–] reaseltbim 11 years ago

no one really cares about the original that much. even if it is mentioned now it just barely gets any talk.

the original is very forgettable.

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[–] ScorpionTDC 9 years ago

no one really cares about the original that much. even if it is mentioned now it just barely gets any talk.

the original is very forgettable.

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Without the original, slashers as we know them wouldn't exist. Period.

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[–] reaseltbim 9 years ago

without the original The Fly, we wouldn't have the remake, which is MUCH Superior
without the original The Thing, we wouldn't have the remake, which is MUCH... MUCH superior.

so, yeah, sure, the original Thing and Fly were nice... yet what MOST people know and remember are the REMAKES. when you ask someone if they like The Fly, they will immediately assume you are talking about the remake one.

so yeah, there's that.

[–] ScorpionTDC 9 years ago

I didn't say coming first made it superior, I laughed at you calling the original irrelevant

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[–] scott-935 9 years ago

Lol at your statement that Howard Hawkes ground breaking THE THING FROM ANOTHER WORLD is inferior.

[–] reaseltbim 9 years ago

[–] detune 9 years ago

Without the original, slashers as we know them wouldn't exist. Period.

They might. Bay of Blood was a huge influence, TCM was being made, and proto-slasher Psycho had been around for a decade.

[–] Strazdamonas 9 years ago

hah, got to be joking there mate. The original may have been one of the first ones, but in no way it defined the genre.

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[–] kurt7825 11 years ago

much better than the other Black Christmas. way more interesting and i loved billy and agnes story. the sets sure make it feel like christmas

[–] wallacesawyer 11 years ago

I think this is a more tolerable remake because it has simularities, but is not the same movie as the original.

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[–] Megavader 11 years ago

Let's not forget the executive producer directed the original and it was co written by the original screenplay writer. Could folks really stop with trying to convince others that something isn't what it is when you had no input in said movie? Its a remake all your theories won't change that at all.

[–] wallacesawyer 11 years ago

and it was co written by the original screenplay writer.

Roy Moore had nothing to do with this film. His credit is "based on a screenplay".

Its a remake all your theories won't change that at all.

Slight rewrite it could've passed for a sequel.

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[–] Mathias001 11 years ago

This movie is terrible compared to the original. I really wish Hollywood would stop remaking classic movies. The original was very suspenseful and creepy where as this one had no suspense at all. Just more gore. IMO gore does not equal horror. Three other movies come to mind in the failed remake category. The Amityville Horror, Evil Dead and the God awful Nightmare on Elm Street.

I freely admit my bias towards older movies because I grew up in the 70's. Those movies had suspense and excellent performances from the actors/actresses. Roberts Blossom's performance in Deranged (1974) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071408/ still gives me the chills to this day.

[–] DesperateHouseboy 10 years ago

I just think of this as a dumbed down version of the first. Its a fun, bloody slasher, while the original was a creepy, suspenseful horror film. I love them both :)

[–] CallMeJerm 10 years ago

You're right it's not a "remake." This is what you would call a loose remake.

[–] Dash99 9 years ago

I consider this a remake and a darn good one. Sure it has it's problems, but I feel like if you're going to remake something, don't just take the original and rehash it, make it your own. And they definitely did with this film.

[–] hurricanehorton 9 years ago

Critically, remakes of popular movies are never going to do that well. If you make it too similar to the original people are going to wonder why you bothered making an almost identical movie. If you make it completely different people are going to moan that it's nothing like the original movie they loved.

The reason they do it is because they know that people are going to pay to see the movie anyway. It's film makers chasing easy money. They don't care if people are paying money to moan about the film, as long as they pay the money.

If you don't care about critical acclaim for your movie, it's seen as low risk film making.

[–] ScorpionTDC 9 years ago

Critically, remakes of popular movies are never going to do that well. If you make it too similar to the original people are going to wonder why you bothered making an almost identical movie. If you make it completely different people are going to moan that it's nothing like the original movie they loved.

Dawn of the Dead's remake was completely different and well received. You're right that no remakes ever win by cloning, but you CAN win by changing things up and making a genuinely good movie.

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