Is this the same Burton Batman???
I ask because Wayne Manor and The Batcave don't look the same as in those films...
shareThe thing I notice most is that it is the Burton Batman but not in the gothic Burton environment.
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MovieChat Forums > The Flash (2023) Discussion > Is this the same Burton Batman???
I thought the manor looked like it did in B89, but not how it did in Returns. As for the cave, someone somewhere did some shot comparisons from the Burton movies and from what we've seen so far of The Flash and it fitted pretty well, it was just that we seem to be seeing more of it this time around (additional levels?).
shareIts difficult to figure out ,
did Barry's time travelling create the actual Burton-verse?? (where Shannon's Zod turns up in 2013 and there's no Superman* in existence but a supergirl, and Eric Stolz is Marty mcfly) or is it not the same Keaton batman from Bat89/Returns ??
*Id always imagine Reeve to be the superman of the Burtonverse, (or at least Cage)
I donβt understand why the butterfly effect from keeping his mom from being killed would cause baby Kal-Elβs spaceship to be intercepted by Zod decades earlier.
shareWell, DC's theory of time-travel is that it's like dropping a pebble in a river. When you do that the ripples go in all directions, not just in the direction that the river is flowing.
shareno, only in two directions, from the nexus point, past and future are both changed
shareThe ripples radiate outwards. That affects both past and future.
shareDid you not watch the movie?
They very clearly showed it was a straight line
Yes, I watched the movie. I also said DC's theory of time-travel. That's the way DC rationalises time-travel to show how/why both past and future are affected, for example in the original Flashpoint. Keaton's explanation was essentially another way of showing the same thing for the movie, that time-travel affects both what comes before and what comes after. The effect goes both ways.
shareI think it created a mash-up of the pre-existing Burtonverse and the DCEU. At the end when Barry went back and let his mother be murdered he prevented that mash-up from ever happening, The Burtonverse and the DCEU returned to being separate.
shareYes thats the best explanation, a mash of Burton and DCEU, that timeline was wiped at the end anyway (so Keatons Batman still exists in his own timeline free from any DCEU incursion) and then the end scene of a mash of DCEU and B&Rverse which is presumably how it will be left. which is kind of apt considering what a mess the DCEU turned outπ
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