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Worst army guys ever.

posted 19 years ago by anarchangel-2
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The movie was fairly entertaining.

However, what's with the army guys deliberately putting themselves in so much danger? Like at the beginning, when the very first army guy gets bitten.. instead of shooting the zombie, he fights it in hand to hand combat for a few minutes and no one offers to help. This of course leads to him being chomped on while fighting.

Did no one brief these guys? "Oh yeah guys, by the way.. if you get bit, you die." I would think someone would have mentioned that.

Not to mention that any time a zombie was more than 2 feet away, it took at least 3 shots to take them down. The first two would knock it down, then they'd walk up to it and finish it off in the head. What a waste of ammo.

Don't get me wrong.. I'm no sharpshooter and I don't think I could have done any better. But you would think that if these orders came directly from the President himself, they would use someone a little more competent than the local junior ragtag squad.

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[–] MeltyBlood 19 years ago

You can have logic in a Zombie movie. It's called a "Romero Movie".

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[–] MeltyBlood 19 years ago

Christ, we're disregarding that. If you're going to argue logic in a zombie movie, you're going to have to, you know, NOT use the "omfg dead people walking" argument . If that's the only thing you can think of, then, you probably shouldn't be here.

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[–] Fkscott17 19 years ago

It's called suspending your disbelief. Just because the dead are walking doesn't mean there isn't going to be actual logic in other places of the film. I found myself cringing at almost every death scene, not because they were gory but because they were so stupid. T

[–] foxhounddan 19 years ago

the 350 pound soldier over did it for me he exceeds the weight limit for a green beret there for he could not be in the special forces.
plus they were all really stupid and you have to have an i.q. over 110 to join which non of them aouviously had.

[–] StoneGriffin 19 years ago

I think the current uniform requirement is that the US Armed forces WON'T issue a pants with waist size bigger than 42".

[–] odinkar01 18 years ago

Not to mention the fact that we have multiple privates in a special forces unit.

[–] snailboy 18 years ago

You would think that not being a fat wussy in the first place would be a requirement to get into the military. Oh well. He dies fairly quickly anyways.

[–] CrazyJim2004 19 years ago

"If you want to say that logic could exist in a zombie movie then why disregard the fact that one of the bases of a zombie movie is dead people walking around."

So in other words, if you are making a film with a highly-fictional premise, you have a license to defy any type of logic? It's obvious that zombies, vampires, and alien monsters are not real but a good filmmaker will always make you believe. If I'm watching a good movie, I'm willing to suspend disbelief if I trust enough that it will work. Real people don't have long pop culture conversations like they do in Quentin Tarantino and Kevin Smith films but I can overlook that because I understand it's a fictional universe. As long as the characters and story flow well and I don't feel like I'm being insulted, I can buy into it.

The entire time I watched "House Of The Dead 2" I felt like I was watching a bad movie. I fast-forwarded at some points. The characters had no consistent motivation. Their actions were so forced. The seargant (played by Sticky Fingaz) was supposed to be this elite soldier but also somewhat of an *beep* We were being told to hate him rather than coming to the conclusion on our own. He was incompotent at times, just so he'd look like a moron next to the leads. When that first soldier is bit, he doesn't want to kill him. Why? He's supposed to be greedy so why would he care if they killed him? It was written that way to create a conflict between them even though it made no sense from the point of view of the characters. The same with the guy who got bitten by the mosquito. They make this big deal about how they have to kill them then he just comes out of nowhere with this stupid speech about how him and the seargant are gonna sell the syrum for millions of dollars? Then instead of killing him, they knock him out, handcuff him to the heater, and give him a gun? The whole movie is so by the numbers.

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[–] Carrigon 19 years ago

They kept wasting so much ammo. I thought the soldiers were totally inept. What is so hard about shoot the head? Especially if you are trained. It was crazy. Then we had them keep going near downed bodies that no one checked to see if they were really dead. A shot to the head of those and they would have saved a good portion of their squad.

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[–] Deodra 19 years ago

I agree, plus we did not see enough of Victoria Pratt.

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[–] Raped_Nun 19 years ago

who cares about Victoria Pratt..?

But yeah, the army dudes were as lame as they could be. No tactics, aiming or even coordination. A band of redneck hooligans could have done bether.

What i allways wonder in zombie movies is that if you are in a situation where you have a hallway infront of you and there are zombies comming down it, why do all ppl run? They often have guns and most common would be a standard 9mm colt aut. they pack not realy any power but headshots kill zombies as easy as humans. And with about 12 rounds in clip there need to be a BUTTLOAD of zombies to be a threat. After all you get to empty ATLEAST 2 clips before they come close, and thats about 20 zombies if you aim slithly.

Thing 2 i am pissed of by, melee weapons. Zombies are slow, semi powerfull creatures with no form of tactic or teamwork. Even if they attack standard ppl with no training a shovel or sledgehammer would make you zombie killer nr1. Just find a place where they cant swarm you, a hallway or plain door. And start swinging. They wouldnt grab the weapon, dodge or duck. Just walk/jump farward.
Every person who have been in a fistfight knows how ok it is to dodge attacks and land punches, and with a zombies lack of movement it most def. wouldnt take mutch work to kill it.

[–] Raped_Nun 19 years ago

And one more thing, when you shoot a zombie (or person) in closecombat you most likely get blood all over you. depends ofc on cal. and weapon but in zombie movies you ALLWAY get covered with gore and blood. Why isnt this blood dangerous? In this movie i saw atlest ....3 scenes where someone got blood in their face, why dont they start mutating from that. Its pure evil zombiejuice.

[–] Carrigon 19 years ago

The blood bugged me, too. These people kept getting it all over them, including in their mouths and they never turned. All I can think of is it's mostly passed through saliva like rabies. But then we had the exception of the mosquito, so I'm not sure. Plot hole.

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[–] Chris_apolo 19 years ago

I thought it was all kinda funny. I mean, when the two "special forces" guys come across the second zombie that is killed when they first arrive at the campus, the fat guy falls down, and the other guy doesn't shoot. Instead, he waits untill the zombie gets close enogh to touch, and then he throws down his weapon and goes jean Claude Van Damme on the zombie! I laughed out loud.

Also, how they were refered to as "Specail Forces" (an Army special operations force), yet they wore Marine digital desert camo. They also were complete idoits. On every occasion they waited until the zobie got within biting distance before they'd try to use their weapon. By then, of course, they were screwed.

Also, the female soldiers and their designer underwear. lol

Anyway, I know this kind of movie is obviously not supposed to be big on realism, but the sheer idiocy of the characters made me turn it off after 45 minutes.

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[–] bored_student 19 years ago

Dude, the only thing entertaining about this movie was the army guys. O'Connor was awesome. True, there is no way a 400 pound fat guy would be in special forces, but that's what made him great! He bumbled his way through over half of the movie, even though you knew he was going to die the second you met him. To be honest, my friend and I were sad when he died.

[–] cal_adamson 19 years ago

I agree 100% about them being the worst soldiers ever. Now, I'm just an average 20 year old guy with no training or weapons/combat knowledge whatsoever but even I was yelling at the screen, coming up with much more logical plans and moves than the supposedly "highly trained" military team.

I mean they walk backwards in dark rooms without checking for zombies, seperate and don't stay in communication, have trouble killing ONE ZOMBIE when they have guns, fight zombies hand to hand instead of shooting them, etc.

Plus they all seemed to have hearing problems: when Victoria Pratt's character yells at Nadine Velazquez's character not to open the van door as there's a zombie inside, she just ignores her, does it anyway and gets bitten.

Also, Sticky Fingaz's character doesn't notice the campus security guy get up and moan, right behind him, and then gets bitten. Actually, that part was especially stupid as they say "They must have killed themselves before they turned" except if the security guys had done that they would have bullet holes in their heads and clearly one didn't, as he turned out to indeed be a zombie.

Overall this film wasn't as bad as I expected, but it had some of the dumbest film characters I've ever seen.

[–] S12345 18 years ago

Plus they all seemed to have hearing problems: when Victoria Pratt's character yells at Nadine Velazquez's character not to open the van door as there's a zombie inside, she just ignores her, does it anyway and gets bitten.

Aside from that, I kept wondering why she was trying so hard to open up that van door to begin with?

The other character basically checked the door, saw that it was locked, and moved on, which is more logical, but Nadine Velazquez's character was still going ballistic on the van door trying to open it...did she receive some order that said "OPEN ANY DOOR YOU SEE AT ALL COST!!!!" ? It's not like they heard anyone crying for help from the inside, and if anyone was injured and down inside, they'd be turning into zombies sometime soon (if not already, which was the case)...

And the other part with the guy kept insisting that "zombies don't read" while he approaches the zombie in the library with his weapon down is hilarious...

And their captain claims that these people have "been to hell and back"...

[–] Deep_Eyes 19 years ago

I agree with everybody. I mean look at the gear they were wearing. Is that a motocross chestplate? They were calling eachother soldiers and that they were "Special Forces". First of all the uniforms they wore were the Marines Digital Desert Camo. Marines would call eachother well.. Marines. Soldiers are referring to troops in the US Army. And I know it is typical for action horror movies to have hot women but the military does not allow women to join any Special Forces group as they are not allowed to be put into combat. Therefore they cannot join infantry units either.

"I want you to hit me as hard as you can."

[–] evolution_500_2 18 years ago

In the case of Marines, there isn't a Special Forces. At least they weren't called that. Rather, they have Force Recon, and believe me, these guys are no joke. The soldiers in the film are idiots, but then again, it was quite funny since in the Corps ARMY is an abbreviation for Aren't Ready for Marines Yet. No offence to any Army veterans or those who are in the Army, but that's the Marine Corps' view.

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[–] PsychoIVondvd 18 years ago

Justin Shenkarow was the sh#$t in this movie. Picket Fences fo life.

[–] ebyrdman 18 years ago

"A band of redneck hooligans could have done better."

YES! Anyone of my friends and I would have lasted three times as long as these clowns. Why, oh why don't they make a movie about a bunch of good ole' boys out hunting, then come back into town to find it's been ravaged by zombies. That's what I wanna see. I was rooting for the hillbillies in '79 Dawn of the Dead. (Shots fired) "Damn, missed..." (another shot) "Got it" "Hell yeah, man." "Yee-haw!"

[–] driverdkh 18 years ago

Army guys...SWAT teams.....wtf!!!!

THERE ARE NO *beep* ARMY/SWAT TEAMS IN THE ORIGINAL HOTD!!! I HATE THESE CLOWNS WHO THINK THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING!!! STICK TO THE DAMN ORIGINAL PLOTLINE PLEASE!!!

SEGA, please dear god dont sell liscenses to retarded movie directors EVER, I have seen enough out of Uwe Boll and this other loser retard who screws with the original plotline of your games. Please, If you do liscense another HOTD movie, liscense it to a director who does failproof blockbuster horror movies!

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