SHiiiit, that scene was played so well. Everyone acted perfect, I could imagine having to decide on bailing my woman (whom i just got back together with) for this nut case who wants to drive to mexico... wtf for? he already has a beautiful female who he can lay wood on, why does he need to go anywhere?
What would you have done? *beep* you jim, you go to mexico, I'm chillin with my girl.
Mexico here we come!!!, screw the chica, and head out with me homie :)
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... i dunno, if im bangin eva longoria, im stayin at the crib. but any other chick, ill see you on sunday honey.
shareBeing married, it would be a hard decision. I would want to keep my word to my best friend, but then I would not want my spouse to be angry and threaten to leave me. But then, I would not want them to tell me that I could not go,cause that would make me go just for spite. It was an excellent scene for sure.
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Friends are more importent than girlfriends.
He had to go with Jim to Mexico otherwise he's just a pussy whip
You should never ditch your mates just to get some pussy
its not worth it.
Says you! Girlfriends and/or significant other and/or spouse are the person who you're supposed to spend the rest of your life with especially if you've been with her for 12 years like Mike and Sylvia. Your friends will never last you forever. You have to choose between the ones who you know will and the ones who will stick by your. Your significant other will...or at least should.
You better be glad you at church! Jesus just saved your life, hallelu-yer!
Girls are girls... Sure they look good and there fun
but you cant trust them and you shouldnt put them ahead of your friends.
lets be honest most girlfriends/boyfriends dont last forever.
Good friends are hard to find
and even though Jim was an *beep* he was a good friend to Mike
and he had his back more than once.
Oh snap, we're talking about Freddy Rodriguez and Eva Longoria here? OOPS..I must've not read the title well. I thought y'all was talking about Jim and the chick in Mexico. Ok, here's my opinion about Mike and Sylvia. I wouldn've went with my best friend of course, that was his homie. Yeah women are beautiful and everything but your boys are your boys, and it was supposed to be his last night in town for crying out loud, of course i'm going to be there for my boy no matter what.
sharehe can bone Eva all next week/month/whatever, when Jim's in Columbia (or woulda been if he hadn't got shot to *beep*
You don't miss your guy's last weekend and if your bird gets in the way then she needs telling - simple!
I don't have to sell my soul, he's already in me.
I agree that if it’s your friend’s last night in town and you don’t know when you will see him again, you should go and hang out with him. But I have a question: All the people here who are saying that Mike should’ve left Sylvia to hang out with his best bud for one last night…are they comparing their own friends to the situation, or are they thinking about someone like Jim?
Because that was Sylvia’s whole problem. If Jim had been a normal, responsible guy without that disturbed edginess to him Sylvia wouldn’t have had any problem with Jim. But she saw Jim as someone who was so destructive he could get Mike killed.
The same thing applies to women and their girlfriends. I have one friend who when she calls me to come hang out, that usually means seeing a movie or going to a coffee shop, etc. My other friend’s idea of hanging out is for example, going to a motel across town to “watch movies” with a couple of guys she met earlier that night.
Of course I acknowledge Mike didn’t know just how screwed up his buddy was until they got to Mexico.
When the hurly-burly's done. When the battle's lost and won.
Sure he was a good friend. Are you sure you watched the whole movie? He was a beep hole that cared about him and himself only. You seen what he did to those people in the military. He's a murderer and no concious. He didn't care about his friend finding a job. He didn't care if he couldn't respect his bfriends wife. Sure-he was all up in glory when he got a call about going being a fed but yet what was he supposed to say to his friend when he takes off and his friend would have lost his wife for sure because he didn't care about his friend finding a job. He looked out for himself and himself only. Jim knew his friend was a good friend-he was just too big of a prick to stop and think once in a while and he needed serious help!!
Plus he put him in dangerous situations more than once that could have costed his friend his life including the bringing the pot back. He cared about himself getting his money and that was it.
damn pass on eva for some chump the dude was caught up in the game yo....
yeah ive been drinkin
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Im glad to see there are smart people posting here (i was starting to wonder)
Bodhisattva knows what friendships all about. pussy doesnt get between you and your mates.
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I'm starting to think you guys are teenagers, stupid, or never had sex. Jim was clearly a complete drunk driving psycho. Any moron could see that nothing good could possibly come out of going to Mexico with a drunk psycho at the wheel. Let's see here, potentially near death experience with psycho Jim or all cozy with the hot girl? I'd go with the girl in that case every time! If you're that weak of a person that your friends calling you pussy whipped manipulates you, you and them need to MAN up.
shareFinally someone spelled out some wise words. Reading all of this made me wonder if the whole world had gone crazy. I'm definitely with viper on this one.
Myself I have a best friend or two aswell who can be a bit on the edge sometimes. I also have a girlfriend, and yes I too screw up sometimes, but I'm also working hard on keeping her and avoiding those situations Mike gets himself into. As Mike and Jim, my job is also trying to get a job. As is my best friend's job aswell.
My best friend will always understand that my girlfriend demands a whole lot more of me than he ever will, and will always forgive me for putting her first and him second and vice versa. All my friends respect me when I say no, and take it as a no. No matter what they ask of me. My best friend will always be my best friend through thick and thin no matter what.
My best friend would respect my desition. My girlfriend most likely wouldn't. So it's easy.
If my stupid screw-ups with Jim had jeopardized my relationship to my one true love, I would've taken a long break from Jim and focused 100% on my girlfriend for sure. If he really was my best friend, he would've understood completely and respected me in that.
Hey darkeval, I just wanna say it's nice to see somebody on here who's got his head on straight. Take it easy.
http://ablueballoon.blogspot.com/
I don't know if it's the girl-guy/woman-man/female-male thing
but as for me I would have chosen my best friend.
TRUE STORY (short) NOT REAL NAMES + SORRY FOR MY BAD ENGLISH:
It was snowing (-25*C) and my friend Ellie was in Alice's house.
Ellie went out to see if there were any buss (so she can go home)
she told Alice to call her after 10 minutes so Alice can open
the "outside door" since it's locked.
Ellie waited 1 hour in cold and didn't feel her feet. Soon Alice
rushed out "I'm sorry, my boyfriend needs me. I was talking wth
him on the phone, he said he's so drunk he might die and need me.
Let's go wait for the buss ok?"
I don't remember the rest but Ellie was MAD. When she needed her
the most Alice chose him over her. And that wasn't the only time.
We were fighting over Alice but we don't give a *beep* anymore.
Now Alice cries how we don't hang out enough and how we seem to
forget about her all the time like we don't invite her to anywhere
or call her. It's not true.
Us: "It's our last day in this town, before we leave
for the summer, hang out with us maybe?"
Alice: "Sorry, it's me & my honey's 3 months together -day so I can't"
Me: "It's my birthday, hang out with me?"
Alice: "But you don't celebrate your-"
Me: "SO *beep* WHAT?? It's my birthday."
Alice: "Bur it's our 7 months together -day so I.. don't know."
Me: "I've forgiven every other *beep* you've done but if you choose to be with your gayfriend than spend a day with ME on MY BIRTHDAY, I swear to god our friendship is over."
(Alice doesn't have any other friends than me and Ellie so she answers:)
Alice: yeaaaa................... (thinks: bitch.)
"Im glad to see there are smart people posting here (i was starting to wonder)
Bodhisattva knows what friendships all about. pussy doesnt get between you and your mates."
emm, unless "pussy" is your best friend and mate?
never had a smart and funny girlfriend?
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What he should of done is told jim just 5 minutes and ill be out, cum inside eva then tell her hes goin mexico, sleep the whole way.
shareWhat??? IT was his best friends LAST day...If his wife would not let him, she really has control issues that would make me second guess if I want to be with her or not.
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"Friends are more importent than girlfriends.
He had to go with Jim to Mexico otherwise he's just a pussy whip
You should never ditch your mates just to get some pussy
its not worth it."
I don't know about you, but my girlfriend for more than 6 years is more than a peice of pussy. If Jim was REALLY his friend, he woulda understood Mike's situation. A good/mature friend wouldnt want one of his buddy's to go home and walk into a break up, especially if they live together. Mike's lady just forgave him for ~LYING~ to her about the job thing, then Mike has the nerve to up and out with Jim. Mike owed more to his lady than he did Jim.
But then again, i guess age is a factor. If you're running around town at the age of 18, ofcourse you're going to roll with your boys. But when you get older, it ALL changes.
Bottom line:
Fiance > friends
Well, my friends anyways :P
But if it was my friend's last night, I woulda went diffenantly. I'd just give my girl the 'Don't you flucking tell me what to do' look.
Why didn't Jim go in with Mike and Tuscon and just explain to Sylvia the whole situation and that he was going to see his girlfriend in Mexico?? It was his last night with his buddies. I'm sure she would've understood if he explained it to her. It was a wrong place at the wrong time type of situation.
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I think it was pretty clear right from the beginning that Jim was the dominant sor tof bully in the relationship and Freddy Rodriguez' character just followed along and looked up to him. It was Jim who cracked the beers in the car, it was Jim who threw his resume out the window, it was Jim whose idea it was to do the fake call-backs.
shareIf I was Jim I would've definitely stayed with the girl and try to straighten out my life and not go back to killing and maiming for "the man", since that's what was giving him nightmares to begin with, so why go through that again? On the other hand, I don't understand why the girl fell in love with him in the first place. I don't see how any girl, even one in the Mexican countryside who lives in extreme poverty would wanna make a life with someone as crazy as he? b/c she even stated she knew what he was capable of but loved him anyway and would prefer to be killed by the man she loved. Maybe it wasn't love, maybe she saw him as her ticket out of that dumphole she was living in..who knows, I guess that's left to the viewer's imagination.
shareNo... the girl in Mexio I don't think was entirely meant to be like a real person. I mean, you're right, it's not probable she'd really love him that much. How the heck would he even have met her, between going through Afghanistan, Iraq, and Southern California. But I don't think she's meant to be taken entirely literally, like most of the other characters, and instead in the story she works more (or at least as much) as the voice of God. Notice how she told him to kill her because she loved him, if he wanted to. What figure that begins with J does this remind you of? She kind of has to know about all of his faults and love him unconditionally in spite of them, because otherwise there would really be nowhere for him to even possibly find redemption.
shareStupid - his best friend was leaving in one week. Bale even told Longoria that.
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"Oh I'm sorry, did i break your concentration?" - Jules, Pulp Fiction
I would have stayed with a girl. A true freind wouldn't force you to go with him by calling you "pussy whipped" and make you feel bad. A true freind would let you stay. And the dude went back with the chick at the wend of the movies anyways.
P.S Some of the comments here make me feel ashamed to be part of the male race
Yeah, sword wielding japanese fellows cutting people in half are a-ok. But tits! OH GOD NO!
And true friends would keep their promises and go to mexico...
P.S if you're ashamed then go relocate your vagina... I'm sure us males too are pretty d*mn ashamed to have you on board...
Man Here... Cook Meat ....!
Jim was not a true freind. He put him through so much. And the dudes wife was pissed at him for so long, and when he finnaly makes her happy, Jim guilts him into going with mexico only to go insane later. Hoenstly, the whole movie felt extremely sexist.
Yeah, sword wielding japanese fellows cutting people in half are a-ok. But tits! OH GOD NO!
You should also go relocate your brain...
girlfriends come and go friends stays forever... and yeah, jim did put him through a lot but it's probably not the first time, so since he chose to be friends with jimmy and since he chose to do some of the crazy stuff with jim he also is a bit crazy... so... back to macro... they're friends... true friends stick together... true friends have their great sides just as they also have their bad sides...
what do you mean by sexist...!?!?!? WTF maaan... you on crack...?? get real... or explain how....
Man Here... Cook Meat ....!
I mean sexist as in all the women in the story were screwed over somehow. The wife, Jims girlfreind(Jim choose being able to kill people over her), and the Jim and his freinds were all like we're "real men". And now relationships just come and go? He married her, but abanded her. And he went back to her at the end of the movie. She loved him, but treated her badly for most of the movie.
Yeah, sword wielding japanese fellows cutting people in half are a-ok. But tits! OH GOD NO!
Bros before Hoes, Dawg.
"Simply Forgot Us"
So a wife is a hoe now?
Yeah, sword wielding japanese fellows cutting people in half are a-ok. But tits! OH GOD NO!
They're all sisters, dawg. So, yeh.
"Simply Forgot Us"
And this atitude is why women hate us.
Yeah, sword wielding japanese fellows cutting people in half are a-ok. But tits! OH GOD NO!
Well, she's not his wife, she's his girlfriend. What I meant to say was, in the current times, men are steadily sacrificing their friendships in the interest of pursuing their romantic relationships. Loss of the male bonding dynamic is in many cases, not worth the sacrifice for the level of stress and pain that many women put their mate/partner/spouse through. Therefor, I applaud Mike for going to Mexico with Jim for old times sake. If she were a good woman, she would have let him go. At the very least she would have let him go without causing a scene like that in front of Jim.
In response to the thread, I would have told my lady to take it easy and that I would be back on Monday morning. (For the @$$ chewing to come)
"Simply Forgot Us"
Mike lied to her, and Jim helped. Its not like his girlfreind was forbiding him to hang out with him. And there's the act that Jim screwed him over in the end
Yeah, sword wielding japanese fellows cutting people in half are a-ok. But tits! OH GOD NO!
"In response to the thread, I would have told my lady to take it easy and that I would be back on Monday morning. (For the @$$ chewing to come)"
Made me laugh out loud but damn true.....Making it up with ya woman is the best bit! :D