Over acting
Am I the only one who thought Christian was over acting?
It's worth mentioning that I didn't finish the movie, in fact I didn't finish the first hour.
Am I the only one who thought Christian was over acting?
It's worth mentioning that I didn't finish the movie, in fact I didn't finish the first hour.
You hit the nail on the head. Unfortunately, more people will get to witness someone like Jim first hand. As a carer I live with it everyday, and don't wish it on anyone.
shareI don't think Bale over acted at all. I think he did a masterful job in this movie of portaying a man who at first, slowly started to unravel in his sanity, and all that comes with that..... and then as the movie went on, we saw a man totally lose it.....I thought Bale was very very consistant and really stayed within his character through out the entire movie.
shareConcur.
shareUpdate on my late love/veteran... He ended his own suffering July 2013. Just another 22/day suicide statistic now (that's the official number, the real is much higher).
shareChristian Bale nailed the role. His job was to act as a dude playing a dude. Male posturing.
It's no mistake that the movie opens in Mexico so we can see Jim (Bale) at peace with himself and the world (well... as peaceful as you can be with PTSD). That is, what Jim is like when he's not acting. Next thing you know he's back in LA and it's all "dawg" and "homie" in the voice of the man who wants others to know he's the alpha of the barrio. But that's not the only act Jim knows. Next thing it's "yes sir" and "absolutely sir" with the posture of a guy with a steel I-beam for a spine. It's not just that he can act in the way demanded by those two worlds, he revels in it. It's his dream to get in the fed car and have *beep* on the side; to play both worlds to his advantage.
I didn't grow up in South Central. I didn't join the military. I don't know if all that posturing is for real. But David Ayer did. So if he knew people like Jim like he says, I'm inclined to believe him that all that posturing (or over acting as you call it) is for real.
You are correct! And please guys who dont see this DONT'D say he is overacting, if you do then you didn't catch the meaning of the film.
shareI really don't get why this should even be considered to be overacting, he just played the role he was given and he nailed it. I had to get used to him acting like that because I haven't seen him like thhis before, but I liked it for sure. It's called adding credibility to the character.
shareI had no problem with the acting. Bale's acting the last part of the movie is exelent.
shareBale wasn't overacting. His character was overacting because he was a phony guy pretending his way through life. He was phony when he was in the FBI offices and just as phony around his friends. That was the point. Bale nailed the character in all his phoniness. Just like he nailed the phony act that Patrick Bateman put on in American Psycho.
shareby - krypzzo on Thu Feb 4 2010 21:38:48
Christian Bale nailed the role. His job was to act as a dude playing a dude. Male posturing.
It's no mistake that the movie opens in Mexico so we can see Jim (Bale) at peace with himself and the world (well... as peaceful as you can be with PTSD). That is, what Jim is like when he's not acting. Next thing you know he's back in LA and it's all "dawg" and "homie" in the voice of the man who wants others to know he's the alpha of the barrio. But that's not the only act Jim knows. Next thing it's "yes sir" and "absolutely sir" with the posture of a guy with a steel I-beam for a spine. It's not just that he can act in the way demanded by those two worlds, he revels in it. It's his dream to get in the fed car and have *beep* on the side; to play both worlds to his advantage.
I didn't grow up in South Central. I didn't join the military. I don't know if all that posturing is for real. But David Ayer did. So if he knew people like Jim like he says, I'm inclined to believe him that all that posturing (or over acting as you call it) is for real.
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Good summary. I have friends who acts like Jim and they will say "I am just being an opportunist". Politicians act just like Jim dont they?
I think where people are coming from determine how they see this film as far as overacting. I know people like his character, not the killing part but every single mannerism and speech pattern. So unless the people I know are overacting he is not.
shareHell to the no he wasn't overacting...Again i have to question peoples thought processes to say s**t like that...All i can say is you haven't a clue what good acting is if you think his portrayal of Jim was bad.
The complete mental and emotional deterioration that Bale took Jim through was riveting, The dude was a complete live wire, a total self destructive train wreck that you couldn't take your eyes off.
He was suicidal, even he didn't know it...The complexities and layers in Bale's performance were outstanding, and do you know why it was uncomfortable for some? cause the psychology of it was all too real.
This was real *beep* up 'psyche' stuff this guy was going through, Let the guys who come home from the war tell you what it's like, Even the psychology of PTSD Bale nailed, That hyper sensitivity/delusion/paranoia/rage etc.
The character wasn't on the same spectrum that you or I would be so you find it hard to relate unless you've been through it or have witnessed it first hand, The way Bale jumped from one emotional state to the next quick as a flash showed how completely out of whack his nerves were.
And as some other poster said the 'Dawg' 'Homie' stuff was just posturing, He's not that guy anymore and even he doesn't know who he is, He's all over the map..
Is he fun lovin party boy 'Homie' Jim? he certainly thinks he is even if he doesn't recognize it anymore, He's clamoring for a simpler time..A nostalgia of sorts but it's gone and he can't reconcile with that so the 'man child' over posturing alpha s**t is over compensation, Of course it's uncomfortable cause he's uncomfortable.
Then you have 'grunt' Jim.. Yes sir No sir Jim, it's all he's been for 6 years straight, Primal 'battle weary' war zone Jim, Watch how completely Jim snaps into it, like it's a second skin, It's the only thing that he is sure of but that's where his trauma lies.
Then you have regular wanna get married and have a future Jim, That's the Jim he wants to be, But he can't escape his past so he can't have that future.
That's 3 different Jim's and Bale nailed that..Look at the 'psychology' of the character, this guy is full of rage/nervous energy and you can see it bubbling under his skin, You can see that he just wants to be better but he can't help himself from wanting to wreck everything in his path.
As for the accent/mannerisms..Yes these people do exist, they're no different from 'wiggers' and Bale actually hung out with a few of them to get his character down as well as Ayer knowing people like that.
But these are the soldiers who are trained to kill for their country and are irrecoverably changed by their experiences, and have to suddenly just forget it all afterwards and slip back into society like it's easy..These are the people that society on a whole forgets about or simply turns away cause they simply don't wanna know or see just what war does to humans.
Great post rochey 1
share"Well... if Jim David (the character portrayed by Bail) was a florist living in a peaceful township in Idaho, then yeah, I guess you could say Bail was overacting."
Absolutely hilarious, exceedingly funny!!
I only got one word to say about Bale's acting : brilliant!
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You'd be right he was overacting at time it seemed like he was trying too hard.I dont think its entirely his fault .I don't think he had alot too go off of when he did this movie .I think if he had better material he'd be better i think in this situation he was forced to overact.
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I thought Bale was embarrassing at times. There were scenes where he clearly couldn't connect properly with the script or the character.
And I like Bale, I think he's a fine actor.
"My car's outside."
"Naturally."
I think Bale is a good actor, and has potential. He was very convincing as the lead role. And yet, I agree that he was overacting in many scenes. You don't need to overdo the accent and mannerisms of a place you grew up in like that, no matter who you're trying to impress....
There is a certain stiffness in his acting that you tend to miss when watching his action movies. Well....
Which times? Scenes like what?
Could you provide some instances please.