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WHERE did that lil kid get that gun??

posted 14 years ago by vanhalenania07
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Remember that scene in the movie, where Reeves is performing at some kid's cowboy themed birthday party, when all of a sudden he's approched by some lil frakker with a gun only for Reeves to realise it's a real gun??

Well, my question is, just where the hell did the kid get a REAL gun from??

I have a few of theories:

1) Sombody gave it to him i.e. an enemy of Reeves who wanted him dead. I know it's a REALLY long stretch, you know, getting a kid to kill someone, but certainly within the realms of possibility (well i think so anyway).

2) The lil guy's father gave it to him and TOLD him to do it. Sort of his idea of a sick, twisted joke.

3) The gun actually belonged to his parents, or any adult figure and he just so happened to find it, by luck would have it, fully loaded, and proceeded to do what he did.

Shudder. Any one of these theories sends shivers down my spine. No matter what the reason was it's still a kid pointing a gun at someone with the actual intention of firing it. Scary as hell. VERY tense scene. LOVE the way Affleck played the scene cool as frack, talking the kid down using, what i like to call, 'kiddy logic'.

What does everyone else think?

Feel free to add your own thoeies!

Peace!

[–] xiao-9 14 years ago

Probably just took it from his dad.

[–] cyberdynesystems101 13 years ago

That event never actual happened. The scene was kind of a combination of many stories were Reeves might get kicked or hit by kids who tried to test his super powers.

I an't afraid of no ghosts!

[–] SpecialAgentScully 12 years ago

Yes, very chilling scene! I didn't take it as being part of a conspiracy, though. I think the kid's parents just didn't do a good enough job of hiding their gun.

Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. -Edison

[–] Bilwick1 12 years ago

In a deleted scene we learn that Phyllis Coates, angry at being replaced as "Lois Lane" by Noel Neill, gave the kid the gun.

[–] SpecialAgentScully 12 years ago

I stand corrected, then! But why would Phyllis take out her anger on the other actors rather than on Noel Neill?

Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. -Edison

[–] shiftylee 11 years ago

That's not true.

[–] gavinmaitland80 11 years ago

yes it is.

no it isn't.

yes.... it. is.

[–] sage2112 9 years ago

hahaha - good one!

[–] Bucky_2007 11 years ago

This scene was actually based on a true story. It's actually in the George Reeves biography here on imdb:

"At one appearance a young boy came up to Reeves, pulled out a pistol and pointed it at him. The boy had taken the weapon, a Luger that his father had brought home from World War II, to see if "Superman" really was invulnerable. Reeves convinced the boy to give him the gun by saying that someone else would get hurt when the bullets bounced off of "Superman".

So I don't know about in the movie but in the situation it's based on the kid stole it from his dad who had it during WWII.

[–] cyberdynesystems101 11 years ago

In a deleted scene we learn that Phyllis Coates, angry at being replaced as "Lois Lane" by Noel Neill, gave the kid the gun.

That's just BS. Coats was unavailable to film because she was already doing other protects. Production stopped temporary until they found a sponsor, by that time she was already working on other things so they had no choice but to replace her.

This scene was actually based on a true story. It's actually in the George Reeves biography here on imdb:

The information on this site is not always 100% reliable. Many biographies about Reeves said they couldn't find any information related to this incident.

I an't afraid of no ghosts!

[–] duckofprey 10 years ago

Christ people, I am 100% sure he was just joking about Phyllis Coates.

It was not clearly worded sarcasm I admit, but get a grip.

[–] Gingersnap10 11 years ago

Was it a real gun then? If it was, Kid's do get ahold of guns somehow. Funny someone did not notice it earlier and also you would have thought the kid would have been playing with it earlier on and clicked it as kids do. it is very odd!
Also you should tell your children to never point a gun at someone, even a toy.
Well behaved women Rarely make History

[–] pjmcgill142 10 years ago

That scene was excellent! Especially when it cuts to Brody in the car. It gave me the shivers! I didn't think too much about the kid having the gun. Don't kids get to exercise their 2nd Amendment Rights like every other American?

[–] peahen78 10 years ago

According to Reeve's IMDb bio, it did happen at an event. The kid's father brought the gun back with him from WWII. The kid took it with him to see if Superman was really invulnerable.

[–] peahen78 10 years ago

My apologies for repetition. I didn't see all of the replies before posting mine.

[–] mcdemuth 9 years ago

Prove the gun event happened...

All I have ever heard is that it is an urban legend. "Someone", and maybe George did claim it did happen, started this legend and it has been around ever since. But, reportedly, there are no other witnesses, or police reports, etc. to support the claim. Even if George said it happened, that does not make it so. As for some statements made on IMDb BIOs, again, who knows who wrote those. Probably some genuine believer of the tale who did that, who did not think it could not be true. Again, no other witnesses or police reports to support it.

As for the event portrayed in the movie... according to the Urban Legend. That is what exactly happened.

If it did happen, I'm surprised George Reeves did not have the police, or child protective services (if they existed then) go to the kid's house to find out what the heck was going on over there...

As for the kid getting the gun... Keep in mind, that back then times were different. Parents actually parented their children, and tried to teach them right from wrong, and many children living in mountainous regions hunted game for food. Locking guns up in cabinets or with trigger locks was not very common. Many families even had shot guns mounted over the fireplace.

Also, remember the scene in the film. He wanted to fire the gun at SUPERMAN, and to watch the bullets bounce off him. When "Superman" told him the bullets might bounce of him and hit the other children, the boy immediately backed down, because he did not want to hurt the other kids. He did not seem to have any problem understanding that, and may have already been taught by his parents that guns could kill other children. But this was SUPERMAN he wanted to shoot, because guns can't hurt SUPERMAN. He did not see any harm in taking the gun for that purpose. If he was not going to see SUPERMAN, he probably would not have taken the gun down from the "fireplace" in the first place.

If the event really did happen, George handled that situation perfectly by reacting to it as SUPERMAN would. Quick Thinking of George's part.

If he had said, I am not SUPERMAN, the kid might have shot him thinking he was lying.

[–] jconn426 10 years ago

He got it from the drawer his daddy told him to NEVER open. (Proof that some people were not meant to be parents. Or gun owners.)

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[–] panson1 9 years ago

If the NRA has it's way (which they do) all kids will have guns....it's so American don't ya know.