Just a question, because in tons and tons of movies that you see, the actors are made to smoke for their role; like in pulp fiction or Mad Men or something, and the actors never seem to get addicted to smoking in real life. So all this talk about how you can get addicted after one ciggarette, is it true? Because from what I see in Hollywood and such, its not true.
sharethe actors don't actually "smoke" the cigarette
they put it in their mouth and pretend to
they never take a huff
when you take a huff and blow it out smoke comes out
this doesn't happen when the actors smoke
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I don't know how much you need to smoke to get addicted; I've smoked a few before and have never looked back. But they are definitely addicting. My parents have been smoking since they were 12, and I can't tell you how many times they have "quit" and then started up again only days later. They even get violent during the withdrawal period (one time my mom jabbed my dad in the back with a pencil before I was even born, and he still has a mark). We've also had times where the money was tight, and between feeding the family and getting a pack of cigarettes, they chose the cigarettes and we would go without eating.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPmfcH5bw0s
Marlboro should do a Miller Time ad. like: "If the only time you smoke is "Miller Time", than smoke a "Bro", bro." just sayin'. wait a second...is that racist? dammit, I thought I was being clever.
shareI am 28 years old and half year ago i stopped my dreadful "HOBBY" after ten miserable years, the last two of them i had coughed up brown loogies every morning, had had back pains, a dark spot on the the right side of my lung and had felt 20 years older every day.
you got to be so damn thick to continue killing yourself with cigarettes! that comes from a guy who is not christian, who lived in a dozen of countries and engages in regular sexual intercourse, having tried a bunch of drugs such as marijuana, crack, cocaine etc. what am i trying to say? ...not only do gooders and boring idiots tell you to stop smoking but people who actually use their gray matter between that sits between the ears and listen to their body, coughing up brown muckus is not natural and certainly not healthy, so stop!
it just takes 72 hours to get over the initial withdrawal symptoms, joel spitzer is the guy who taught me how to quit...though as much i thank him, i am proud of my effort because i broke the chain, and its true you will be addicted FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE!!!! EVEN YOU DONT SMOKE YOU ARE IN WITHDRAWAL, you dont feel it on a regular basis but you will get a craving attacks that last a few minutes, it will gradally get better and after a while you will think of smoking as a bad dream from the past, like an ex girlfriend that really sucked!
you will become an non active smoker, hopefully for the rest of the life, sadly you will always be a drug victim.
you ll get over it!BEWARE THOUGH! NEVER EVER EVER TAKE ANOTHER PUFF...or you become an active smoker again...a junkie once again.
i dont even tell you the every about possible BS(which is not BS but i know how "smokers" think about hearing that, they are just annoyed by it) about cancer but far more important factors are firstly, you lose 2 hours of your life a day(for a chain smoker that is), not in health but in time...which sucks in two hours you can o so many other things. second point is simply this...you lose your endurance and agility, you wont last long during sex, which is really something you should consider!
cigarettes, smokes, coffin nails are the deadliest drug in the world, they are highly addictive and they dont give you anything in return but death!
marijuana for example has a "HIGH" which is fun. smokes dont have that!there are so many points to consider...seriously consider it. i know its lame but you own to yourself and you feel so much better, if you NEED something to cool of then rather smoke a joint instead of a cig.
for all the casual smokers, i hope you never smoke more otherwise you have to go through the same s**t i had to go through!
the move was great though :)
So what you are saying is.. someone who does a lot of drugs and is not a christian is someone who is thinking straight? Idiot.
shareI smoked for almost a year before I actually "NEEDED" a cigarette. So, yes they are addictive, but not after one, hell, not after one pack even.
shareAlso, alot of those actors probably aren't even inhaling.
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like your sig sir and yes i agree...meth is cheap and there. i for once think that many hollywood actors are secret alcoholics, you can tell by the way they look like after a few years prior being healthy and buff...they get bloated(not fat in a way like obese people are) no bloated and saggy, just unhealthy looking. to be obese isnt so bad but you can easily distinguish between a healthy obese person and a fat chainsmoking alcoholic.
shareIf you have willpower, they won't be addictive until you're using them on a regular basis. You could smoke for the filming of a movie and not come out addicted if you were worried about the health affects of cigarettes.
The idea of 1 or a couple or even a pack of cigarettes getting you addicted is fantasy. You might decide that you like them and want to keep smoking them, but that's not addiction.
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I agree. I believe anything, be it cigarettes, alcohol, coffee, etc., are all MENTALLY addictive. I don't believe that there is addictive chemicals, because if there were, anyone who has smoked a cigarette would be addicted to them instantly. Anything can be addictive if you enjoy the feeling you get while doing it. I, myself, admit that I am mentally addicted to cigarettes, but it's not because the nicotine or tobacco sending my brain a message saying "you need this." I am addicted because I it's become so routine to have one at certain times of the day. Just like some people can't start their day without a cup of coffee (I'm one of them), I can't start my day without my morning smoke on the ride to work. However, if I am ever in a situation where I can not smoke, I do not freak out. I don't even think about cigarettes when I'm not driving or out having a few drinks with friends or drinking my morning coffee. I don't take smoke breaks at work and I don't smoke inside my condo (occasionally I will go outside to have one, but that's on a very very rare occasion). I guess you could call me a "casual" smoker, but I would still be considered an addict. I guess my point is that cigarettes can be addictive if you truly enjoy smoking. I've known plenty of people who have tried cigarettes, hated them, and have never smoked again. If cigarettes had addictive chemicals in them, then it would be impossible for anyone to not become addicted. Same goes for anything else.
shareNot to sound like an ...not sure on the censorship rules here... but that is completely wrong.
Yes you can be chemically addicted to things. Based on the knowledge that I have passively absorbed from...being alive, once certain foreign chemicals are present in your body for a sufficient period of time your body naturally gets used to and expects that stimulus to continue. After a while, *not smoking* becomes unusual to your body and human bodies generally fight against the unusual via annoying the hell out of you.
That said, personally I do not think that alchohol is a chemically addictive chemical, but from personal second hand experience I know that at least cocaine(and by extension crack) and cigarettes definately are chemically addictive.
I'm assuming that the AA crowd have more of a problem with actually being drunk(as in their behaviour after getting plastered) than the drinking or else my entire graduating class may be facing an epidemic.
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I understand your views and agree with it to a certain degree. I still think that addiction is more mental than anything. Like you said, you don't think alcohol has addictive chemicals. So how do you explain alcoholism? That's an addiction to alcohol. If what you say is true, then what you're saying is that alcohol is a mental addiction. I think my favorite argument is marijuana. Every pot head on the face of the planet says "it's not addictive" and "it's not possible to be addicted to pot." I know first hand that pot can be just as addicting as anything else. I personally don't think chemicals cause addiction, your mind telling yourself that you NEED to have a certain thing is what causes addiction. Hence why people can be addicted to way more than just drugs and cigarettes. People all over the world are addicted to sex. I had a neighbor who had an addiction to purchasing things from infomercials. What is the chemical responsible for those? I think some people just refuse to believe that it's their own mind that is working against them and look for something to blame, like "something in the cigarette". Then how would you explain how so many people try smoking and never become addicted? It's because they don't feel like they mentally need it. Hence why I don't ever take smoke breaks at work, or smoke when I'm sitting at home. It's because at those times, I don't feel I need to have one. It's all mental, that's why some people are more addicted than others. You're right, there MAY be chemicals that help trigger a mental addiction, but to blame addiction on chemicals alone and deny that your subconscious, or what have you, have NOTHING to do with addiction is just a blatant practice in stupidity.
sharePeople that claim that cigarettes are only mentally addictive and not chemically addictive are simply ignorant. No one is that stupid or they are just tobacco company plants.
sharehow about elaborating? at least with my opinion, I give examples and reasons to back it up. You sound like a child just saying, "no, you're wrong. I don't know why, but you just are." I'm not looking for an argument, I'm looking to hear others detailed opinions because, to me, I think addiction is mental. If it wasn't, then how do you explain people being addicted to things that aren't substances? I doubt you can answer that, so hopefully someone else can.
shareSmoking tobacco ISN't addictive, smoking cigarettes that are processed and made to up the nicotine level IS.
Companies intentionally treat their tobacco with substances that will intensify the the nicotine high when smoked (Almost like freebasing cocaine).
As a smoker of over 8 years the best advice I can give is don't start. One won't get you hooked, but it will get you started on the path.
Nicotine is a mental addiction and not physical (Quitters don't experience cold sweats or anything like that). It changes the way your brain functions (even sugar and caffeine do) in a way that without it you experience a shortage of brain chemicals that makes you want to more.
A person can be addicted to ANYTHING: working out, eating, smoking, shopping, etc. And there is no real 'quitting' humans just replace one habit with another.
Hope that helps
EDIT: Chemical addiction? That refers to people who use pills.
http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/c/chemical_addiction/intro.htm (sorry no hyper links)
thank you. that's what I have been trying to say all along. I know cigarettes are processed to give a stronger nicotine high, and it makes it easier for your brain to crave more. But, in the long run, it's your own brain telling you you want more, hence why all addiction is mental at the end of the day. This is why some people never become addicted, because their brain doesn't think it needs this certain feeling. If cigarettes had a special chemical in them that is designed to cause addiction, then every person who has smoked one cigarette would become addicted. It's all free will. If you want to quit, you can quit. If you want to smoke, you can smoke. If you want to have one a day, or a pack a day, you can choose to do so. There is no chemical that is "making" people addicted. There is a chemical that pushes the mind towards addiction, but it doesn't cause addiction. Your own mind causes addiction.
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Ugh. Goddamn you people are stupid. They are addictive. You also don't feel like eating when you are sick you damn idiot! Yet you have to in order to survive. If you are a smoker then you know damn well how addictive they are. It isn't open for debate. It is scientific fact Nicotine is addictive!!!!!
share"Ugh. Goddamn you people are stupid. They are addictive."
LOL! I know! If it wasn't physically addictive, there would be no market for the nicotine patch.
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Did you look at the link that you posted? It clearly lists nicotine along with a few blatantly obvious addictive illicit drugs on there. Then again, it also lists marijuana and alchohol, which I disagree with from experience but am not knowledgabe enough to outright deny.
That said I did not post it to support my argument.
Jims82, you are being extremely polite(unheard of on the internet), but at the same time you seem to be... I would rather not finish that out of respect.
Your argument that addiction is mental instead of chemical is...wrong. For one, every emotion/thought that you have is effected by the chemical and structural makeup of your body and brain at that moment. Again, I am not an expert and may be wrong a few things, but from what I have gathered outside influences, such as nicotine, cocaine, lsd...etc etc, can effect the balance in different ways.
From what I am told, certain chemical can never become addictive and cannot be overdosed on, such as LSD supposedly, marijuana, vitamin c, etc, because of the way that your body reacts to and diffuses them. Others, such as nicotine, whatever the addictive component of cocaine is, and meth, become necessary for the normal function of your body, and just like people who are starving will fight/kill for food, people who are *starved* of whatever they are addicted to will try(to varying degrees apparently, from fellatio for crack to a few dollars for some cigs) to get that substance.
Everything that I have personally seen/experienced(having avoided chemically addictive things for the most part) supports what I've said, but I may be wrong on a few things.
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at least that's how it is with me.
The cigarettes that actors smoke in movies and on TV are not the same kind of cigarettes a person can buy at the store. These are specially made prop cigarettes that do not contain any tobacco or nicotine (nicotine is the ingredient in cigarettes that make them addictive). They're made to look like and smoke like a regular cigarette, but they are much less dangerous and do not create an addiction.
As for real cigarettes, yes, they are incredibly addictive because of the nicotine. Nicotine is one of the most addictive drugs in the world.
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You CAN OD on marijuana, but if you are not high by that time then you were probably dead already
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