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Do female revenge films like these degrade or empower women?


There is a lot of debate over these kinds of films and one topic is whether or not these films centered on revenge can be called empowering or feminist or if they encourage too much inappropriate responses to violence against women to be truly empowering.

Some people believe that a film that truly empowers women would have them deal with injustice, oppression and mistreatment simply by healing, moving on and living a fulfilling life. And that these films don't do anything at all for women because they still make it more about the *beep* who wronged them than about the victims.

Others point out that there is a fine line between vengeance and justice and what one calls vengeance another calls justice. And that deep down, even if we consider ourselves pacifists, nonviolent, feminists, social justice types, we all have a desire to extract this kind of vengeance on those who hurt us and it is purely natural to use these movies as a catharsis of sorts.

This debate has been going on for years, ever since the first I Spit On Your Grave movie came out in 1978. And it has resulted in interesting, to say the least, debates that sometimes end up as flame wars. The original I Spit On Your Grave has been called both a feminist horror film of sorts and an anti feminist horror film of sorts too. I imagine that the same could be said for the 2010 remake.

Which side of the debate do you take?

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I don't think it does anything for women. It's about an underage child, who happens to be quite mature for her age, trying to take control of her life and also trying to get rid of a monster who is taking childhoods away from other girls.

These civilized people, they’ll eat each other. See, I’m not a monster. I’m just ahead of the curve.

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Lots of frustrated pedophiles on this board.

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The question itself is categorically sexist and invalid. No one would ever consider asking if Rambo is bare a portrayal of man's true nature/bloodlust or 98% of male conducted violence or revenge. As Freud sad sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, sometimes the person conducting revenge is a woman with her own personal grievance and not promoting an agenda

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I haven't seen the movie, but imo it has nothing to do with women at all. She'a s CHILD, not a woman.

IMO, you can't make a sweeping statement about these kinds of things. I saw an interview with Glenn Close and she saw her character in Fatal Attraction as a feminist character because she was a successful business woman, but she got a lot of backlash because she was obsessed with a name and totally crazy. IMO it's got to be taken on a case by case basis.

Just because there happens to be a female protagonist getting revenge doesn't mean it's either empowering or degrading, just like a man in the same situation is judged based on the actual details of the situation.

But I do find movies like Sucker Punch disgustingly sexist. A woman would never feel empowered by running around in her underwear beating people up. Men want to see hot women do these things, but it has nothing to do with the women.

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These types of movies reminds me to never stick my d*** in the crazy.

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How to know before... The crazies know how to play normal.

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As a woman, I find "empowering" women movies to be Norma Rae, The Color Purple, Fried Green Tomatoes, The Help, Places in the Heart and Silkwood. Those are just some examples off the top of my head; I am sure there are a lot that I overlooked. I don't know if I would go as far to say that this film degrades women ... does Death Wish, Dirty Harry, etc. degrade men? To me, a movie like Hard Candy falls into Vigilante category like Kill Bill, House on the Left, I Spit on Your Grave, etc. Of course some of these are definitely more violent than others.

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Agreed
There is nearly always a sex crime involved with female vigilante stories...

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it is strange but true

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Hmm...

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