I was just wondering if Jackson would have killed Lisa if everything goes according to the plan, or he really would have let her walk away as he said? I mean, she knows quite a lot, and usually victims or eyewitnesses are not recommended to be kept alive. But still, we know he never lies.
What you think?
maybe we can split into two situation
1. no, Jack will never killed Lisa, for various reason
2. yes, eyewitnessess will be killed per se
he lies one, when he told lisa that he will call his partner at right after the call she made to change keefe room, but he doesn't, in fact, Jack will only make that call after 10 to 15 minutes when they landed at Starbucks..for latte.
I don't think so. I think he would have simply walked away. He was in public, there was nowhere to kill her. I think he would have gotten off the plane and disappeared.
shareI feel he would have killed her. These type of people never leave any loose ends to lead back to them. There are some things we don't know about the killers and what there backgrounds consist of such as a criminal record, fingerprints, photos in police files, if so then it would be a definite yes the police would ask for a detailed description and a sketch artist would be brought in. So why would they keep them alive. They may have been in pubic but he simply would say stay with me or the hit man will kill your father, he would have still maintained control of her.
shareYeah, I was kinda sure he would have let her go, but that Finish the job line made me confused, too. Maybe he really only got carried away after the pen incident, and this line was kinda telltale so Lisa would know what awaited her...?
shareWell at that point she stabbed him in the throat, so of course he wanted to kill her. If she hadn't done that, I think he was simply going to disappear once the plane landed.
shareI'm sure he would have been quite effective in covering his tracks and making sure he wasn't caught, even if Lisa had gone to the police. So yeah, I'm assuming he would have walked away if she hadn't stabbed him in the neck.
And on that note- can you actually do that? A pen is not a knife after all, it is rather blunt...
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Actually that's what I wanna think, too:D
Well, I dont know, maybe if the impact is huge enough, maybe it can pierce the throat after all it is not bone but it is quite dubious.
Of course you can do that. I've been stabbed in the hand with a pen before.
shareWell, that "I'll still finish the job" line confused me too. However, when he heard the police sirens, he said something like "see ya" and Lisa told him to freeze. So he was going to just let her be and run away. :)
shareWe'll talk, yeah. But maybe only because he didnt have time and enough strenght left to kill her. And this line could be very menacing, like hey, I won't kill you now, but later I surely come back and finish it. Anyway, I simply choose the "wouldnt have killed originally" way;)
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Apart from all the reasons he really shouldn't..I don't think he would have even wanted to, unless some revenge was involved. I think he felt some sympathy towards her and actually liked her, but yeah, he tried at the end only because I think he was hell bent on getting revenge.
shareSure, in the end he went apesh*t and wanted to kill her, pretty unprofessional act from many point of view but originally... of course, we'd never know.
shareI think he was going to have his guy kill her dad anyway and then the guy would wait for her to get to the house and kill her. Seems like the way it would go and Rippner's line about finishing the job sort of says it all. Rippner didn't have any real reason to freak out over that stabbing since it wasn't a major injury and by the time he caught up to her he had to know she had ample time to alert the cops by then so it wasn't as simple as just letting her go plus he thought Keefe had been killed until Lisa told him otherwise.
shareHe freaked out about the injury not because it was serious but because of the fact that she did that to him. I think he, in a way, sick as it is, he felt betrayed. He thought he was in conrtol, and the fact that she lied to him, fought him (this very fact he just didnt seem to be able to comprehend b/c he thought it was irrational that she didnt simply follow his instructions), and got behind his defence and stabbed him like that. He got pissed b/c it proved he failed (not necessarily wit hthe assignment itself but in regulating her), and I think his personalitly, his ego couldnt digest it that a boring, feeble and small woman (a WOMAN, for crying out loud - if anything, he was a chauvinist) defied and defeated him. It was obvious that AFTER she stabbed him, he was hellbent on killing (or at least, punishing) her but before it... it's still open. In a way, I can imagine he was damn cocky enough to think the police would never catch him, and he was so freaking mad about lies and that he never lied that it contradicts any plan on killing her.
shareI don't think he planned on killing her. I feel like he follows a very bizarre personal moral code, as evidenced by his priding himself on the fact that he never lies, and by his insistence that what he's doing is just his job. So I think that if he told her he planned on letting her go, then he planned on letting her go. And he thought he'd walk away from it just fine; it was only when he realized that Lisa had no intention of going quietly into the night that he decided he had to take more drastic measures.
shareThat's exactly what I thought and would happily agree with (esp. with the twisted moral code part), if there werent that one sentence that confused me: in her father's house he said when she asked him what he was doing htere: "Finishing the job". And remeber, that minute he didnt know that Keefe was alive. So what he was refering to by finishing the job? He was mentioning it like it really was the part of the job (=to kill her). Maybe only his temper/revenge was talking from him, but still, it was confusing and made me wonder if it really was part of the plan.
shareActually,from what I recall from the director's commentary of the film,
Wes Craven stated that
Jackson was supposed to leave Lisa at the airport and fade into the woodwork after the assasination was finished,but when she humiliated him,thus wounding him physically(and mentally
for that matter),
he loses his self-proclaimed professional 'male- driven fact based logic'
and goes after her.
The 'finishing the job' remark is him trying to cover up his wounded male pride
and ego.
Lisa even calls him out on it saying something to the effect,
"Where's your male-driven fact based logic,now,Jack?
I don't think that's what brought you here."
(I'm paraphrasing here,as it's been sometime since I've seen the film.)
Cool, i like this explanation and i think it suits rippner pretty much! Thanks:)
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