Toni's accent


I am an American and I was wondering why is it that when American's try to do an accent (ie. British or Austrlian)8 out of 10 times you can tell it's fake and they have a hard time of it. But when other nationalities try an American accent it is almost always perfect. I think Toni does a perfect American accent in this movie and all her movies as an American... as does Rachel Griffiths in hers and Kate Winslet in hers etc etc... Is it easier do you think? Just a question


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I honestly think that actors from other countries than America are perfect with other accents. People from the UK mainly. Toni Collette's accent was perfect in this, The Hours and in Little Miss Sunshine. I just think it's easier for them or something. I have no idea.

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It could also be that most foreign actors and actresses are simply better than American ones. I mean, come on, Keanu Reeves and Kevin Costner doing accents is a joke.



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I think you're right for the most part but I have seen performances by actors who have accents who work so hard at sounding "American" that they sound phony and affected as well. Two performances that immediately come to mind are Russell Crowe in CINDERELLA MAN and Jude Law in I HERAT HUCKABEES.

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I haven't seen Cinderella Man, but off the top of my head an example of a bad American accent is Vanessa Redgrave on Nip Tuck. She plays Julia's mother. Maybe it's because I know she's English, but it just doesn't sound right to me. It sounds like she's trying to talk without moving her jaw or mouth. It sounds like a bad ventriloquist. Good actress, bad accent.



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You are absolutely right about Vanessa Redgrave. I remember her attempts to drop her accent in DEEP IMPACT and GIRL INTERRUPTED and she sounds affected and phony.

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I've noticed this as well...whenever a British actor tries to hide their accent in an attempt to sound American, it always sounds very affected and phony, with Collette in this film being one of the rare exceptions.

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i totally disagree with anyone of you who are saying her accent was fantabulosimo!!

being Australian myself i found her accent overly americanised and that during her dialect she kept slipping back into the Australian accent...next time you watch it you might just notice as she does it countless times...a typical example is when she is talking to her friend in the supermarket...

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i think you'll find Toni Collette is AUSTRALIAN....not British

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Toni Collette's American accent in "The Sixth Sense" was flawless as well. I thought that she did a good British accent in "About a Boy," but then again I'm not British so I wouldn't know.

I think Bob Hoskins and Hugh Laurie's American accents are pretty good as well.

Kate Beckingsale's American accent in "Brokedown Palace" has got to be the worst sounding American accent ever. Her accent in that movie was absolutely awful.

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Haha. I was going to say that too. She's Australian, there's a distinct difference in the accents. Anywho, she does a great American accent, but I do agree she does slip into her Australian accent at times. I definitely notice it on certain words. I love her Australian accent. I secretly wish I was Australian and had one. American accents suck, they're so plain.

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Toni Collette is exceptional at accents I have noticed.
And a really hilarious example is Velvet Goldmine, where she plays an American doing a fake English accent and slips in and out of it. At first I thought, this is awful and realized then it was the character
was a phoney. Really good job, especially since she is Australian (!)

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I agree, TC's accent was perfect.

I think Reese Witherspoon did a very good job in The Importance of Being Earnest with the English accent. Some Americans ARE good at it. If to some she sounded fake, it's because she speaking posh.. makes them sound kinda snobby. No offense, I love the English accent, but not as much as the Welsh or Scottish.

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American actors are lousy at accents. There are very few who are capable of pulling off a foreign accent perfectly. Some actors dont even bother. The american actors who do the best accents are usually character and comic actors. Lead dramatic actors almost always suck. They over-emphasize their accents and make it sound fake. They should spend more time watching british comedies and serials.

Hollywood movies are standard entertainment in all non-communist countries and most movie lovers from other countries watch them with subtitles. Also english is a required language course in almost every high school around the world whereas in the U.S., we are arent encouraged to learn other languages. Now we're even discouraged from learning Spanish. So it's easier for foreigners to watch american movies and most use them as a tool to learn english and familiarize themselves with the many different kinds of american accents and dialects. I see asian immigrants renting american videos at the library everyday. Makes sense. Watching a movie that interests you and learning a language at the same time.

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Naomie Watts, Toni Collette, and Colin Farrell stand out among the actors who have done Ameican accents. All very very believable. It's fascinating.

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Until your post, I never realized Naomi Watts was English, which shows just how good her American accent is.

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Naomi is English but raised in Austrailia. She's one of Nicole Kidman's homies.

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It's all about muscle memory. If you use certain muscles in your body, they become stronger, surpassing the strength of other muscles. It's the same for your mouth. You get used to stressing your tongue a certain way, to holding your face a certain way, making 'O's with a round mouth and 'E's with a wide grin. You get used to speaking a certain way, and it's hard to pick up foreign accents. In Japanese, the letters "R" and "L" are the same, so it's particularly hard for them to pick up English.

If you try to speak with a Brit accent, you'll notice that you hold your jaw lower and forward, while pulling the roof of your mouth upward. Think of Eliza Doolittle in My Fair Lady with the mouthful of marbles.

Another factor is that European primary schools have more foreign language requirements. That would give your mouth quite a workout. Ugh all of this sounds like sexual innuendo, I'm done.

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There was one bit in the film where Collette slips into an Australian accent, that I noticed. It's in that scene where she goes to talk to her dad about her grandmother sending her that plain ticket - just some words sound really Australian to me, but otherwise it's pretty much all good. Her American accent in Little Miss Sunshine is pretty much flawless, I thought.

Although I never really knew if it was just because I was not American myself that I was easily kidded into thinking the accents were good - but yeah, in "Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind", Kate Winslet - like you said - and also Tom Wilkinson's American accents, despite being English, both sound really good.

Maybe it's just cos American media is everywhere - people in other countries get used to hearing American accents in the films they see and music they listen to...

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Toni did a good accent in Shaft too. Christian Bale (her co-star in Shaft) does a good US accent. Angelina Jolie does a good accent. And for some weird reason I can't understand a word Colin Farrell says in his normal Irish accent, but u can hear him clearly when he speaks with an american accent.

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That was the one scene where I heard Toni's Australian accent a bit too. I don't remember what specific words, but you could hear it on some.

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About before, I think the reason that other actors are better at performing American accents and American actors are lousy with other accents, such as English and Australian is because in other countries we are exposed to a lot more American TV and cinema so the American accent is very well known.

As an Australian, when watching the episode of The Simpsons where they come to Australia, the accents they put on are terrible and I find them hilarious. I suppose they were not intending to sound completely accurate with their portrayals, but still...they didn't even get close with that one.

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ahahha shoot n miss..... they were way off target with that one

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To be honest, I had no idea Toni was actually Australian and was doing a fake accent for this movie. Sounded pretty good to me.

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I have a sneaky suspicion it has to do with the way American culture has spread throughout the western world. I'm Australian, and the number of American TV shows vastly out-numbers the Australian ones. It's not surprising, therefore, that many actors from Australia are able to replicate an American accent flawlessly. Having never travelled to America, I don't know how many Australian or British films or television series end up on your screens, but I'm assuming there aren't too many; I am, of course, basing this assumption on certain episodes of shows like the Simpsons, where the "Australian" accent is actually some sort of hybrid, crossing the accents of England, America and New Zealand.

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People in Australia (and pretty much everywhere else) grow up watching American tv, so the US accent is familiar to most of us. We can even pick various different US accents - Southern, New York, Italian-American etc simply from having watched so many US shows.

I could do an American accent even as a kid since I watched so much Seseme Street!

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