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I can NOT believe the rating for this movie!


People..
Are you serious??

5.5 out of 10??


My God!

I mean...

Ok, just to take a completely random example..
take Karate Kid... It has a rating of 6.8 out of 10.... ???

Have you seen the acting in Karate Kid?
Have you carefully evaluated the plot/story?
Have you even looked at the cinematography?


Now I want you to take a look at The Black Dahlia...

Great acting!! (Heavy emphasis on the exclamation marks!)
Great plot/story!
Great cinematography!
Great dialogue!


Now..
Please don't get me wrong here.. I enjoy Karate Kid and I am fully aware that it's is in a completely different genre.. But this is just to get a perspective on things.


Maybe people don't like this Noir style.. If so.. It's a pity...
You are missing out!


Show the director, the actors and all the people who worked on this movie some respect and give it a higher rating.

And If you don't like it.. Then learn to like it, it's actually possible..



my 2 cents + a quarter...

-Tommetass

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I can believe the rating. The movie is firmly mediocre, so 5-6 seems right for that.

Comparing this with the Karate Kid is also ill-advised. KK stacks up as a solid kid's film even today. BD is pretty weak compared to other noir/mystery films. BD might be shot better than KK and have a better cast, but the result is what matters - and the result is that KK has become iconic and beloved, whereas I'll bet most people who saw BD can't remember much of it.

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Well....comparing the Karate kid and TBD seems very random and nonsensical,since they have exactly NOTHING in common,from genre to when they were made to directors or the time period they are placed in. Neithr is the rating like comparing a 5.2 to a 7.6.

But acting? Which film was Oscarnominated of these two for best Supporting actor? That is correct,The karate kid.

The black Dahlia got a nom for cinematography and deservedly so,I would also have supported an art direction nom...but that is ALL it has going for it.

Eckhart embarrasses himself here,he sure as hell isn´t helped by the script who just turns him into a teeth-grinding,very agressive junkie in 4 seconds. His arc is so pointless and convoluted and since it ties in with the rest of the story,by the time we get to sum things up,the whole story becomes even way more convoluted(And amazingly,since so repetitive,a plot for simpletons) then it is at this point.

Cause that is what this is;A hollow,goodlooking,derivative,very poor attempt at film noir. So much exposition,every scene,every name will mean something,from Eckharts openng random shooting of a thug;it was so painfully obvious.


There is nothing special"to understand." WHY would Hilary Swank even be in this picture if not to have the role she has? This is of course underscored and made too abbundantly clear from the amount of time we spend with this rich,eccentric family. There are NO other suspects.

Dinner after dinner,scene after scene,we just wait for" the revelation",since this basically is the story and no red herring. When mommy goes nuts and explains certain things,while it´s not helped by Fionas extreme overacting,the explanation for certain elements of the story is so farfetched and convoluted,it doesn´t even seem to make sense to her crazy character.

Hartnett,bland,harmless and wannabe noir,Swank as a femme fatale but she looks like the mix of a cute horse and Courtney Cox. Johansson,as so often,just doesn´t fit,seeming out of place,readings sound like she gets the dialog through a ear-mic and belonging in another century and film.

Mia Kirshner and John Kavanagh were the only good ones here- Great shame on DePalma for this one and I can Not understand how James Ellroy liked this interpretation of his book but shunned the supremely more ambigous,tenser and better acted(Russell,Gleeson,Rhames) Dark Blue by Ron Shelton. 3.5 for this superficial,messy film that lacks direction,conviction and discipline.

So you understand movies,ey and if one does not like this one,it means one does not understand it? Awesome mentality there.

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I like the genre. I understood the story. I am familiar with James Ellroys' work. I like most of the actors, I saw it at the theater when it came out with great expectation. It put my ass to sleep. I waited a while and rented the dvd..alas. I saw it listed on cable and tried again, STILL wanting desperately to connect..Sigh. Aside from Scarlett who was magnificent in 50's costuming, the whole thing is a mess to me. Seems as though the only cinematic nod to film noir was to make everyone wear a hat and chain smoke non-filter cigarettes. Jeez. It gets a 5 from me and not for LACK OF TRYING!

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