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Just watched again and.......

posted 10 years ago by MyloMan30
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I can respect how someone could put this above The Dark Knight.

For the longest time, the Dark Knight was my favorite of the three, by a long shot mainly because I love The Joker and I thought Ledger crushed it. That being said, I really do love Batman Begins version of Scarecrow and I'm a little saddened that we don't see more of him.

I do love Batman Begins version of Gotham more than TDK's version. In BB, it was a city, but like a real life adaptation of a comic book Gotham, where in TDK and TDKR it seems just like a normal city. So after everything is said and done, I would likely still rate TDK above Batman Begins, but the gap isn't as large as it use to be for me.

I think TDK and BB are very close together and then there's a big drop off to TDKR.

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[–] ric_boy 10 years ago

Take the Joker out of the movie and TDK loses a lot of it's appeal. The production design, cinematography, music in Batman Begins is way better.

[–] T-eschberger 8 years ago

Yup. Take the Joker away from TDK and all of a sudden the film is incredibly forgettable.
I've always been disappointed by how "normal" TDK looked and felt compared to BB. BB is the perfect example of doing a realistic and gritty superhero movie. Gotham feels like a real place, but it still retains just enough visual invention and design to make it feel unlike any real city. Gotham in BB resembles Blade Runner without feeling like a lazy aping of that style. Gotham in TDK is just...Chicago. And visually it's just a Michael Mann film.

TDK simply never feels like a comic book film. Be realistic. Be grounded. But don't do away with the inherent style of a comic book to do it.

This will get me flack...but BvS understands this. Metropolis and Gotham, while not as distinctly rendered as I would have like, still felt like a comic book world. BvS grounds these characters in a world closer to nor own than ever Nolan films. Yet BvS still manages to feel like it's a heightened reality thanks to directing, cinematography, and production design.

[–] oldchummer 10 years ago

I think as a fan of the comics, IMO at least, this is the one the most closely follows what the character is like in the comics. It definitely has the most focus on Bruce/Batman out of just about any of the Batman movies, so it does have that over the other movies. I think I'll re-watch the trilogy just to refresh my thoughts a little, haven't really watched them in a while.

[–] manchof1 10 years ago

The only thing that brings down Batman Begins is the villains not being as interesting as the ones found in the sequels and even the ones from the Tim Burton Batman films.

[–] pgFiSheYe 9 years ago

The only thing that brings down Batman Begins is the villains not being as interesting as the ones found in the sequels and even the ones from the Tim Burton Batman films.

That's true, which precisely stregnthens Batman Begins. In Begins, the story, plot, in essence the whole movie is about BATMAN. In the Burton films, the movies while titled "Batman", were more about the villains, and this got worse in Schumacher's films as well.

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[–] oscarxp25 10 years ago

Happy Birthday!

I remember the feeling I had after this film was over. I saw the movie about 5 times. I only see movies that I really love more than once in the movies.

The movie is amazing because Batman doesn't show up for almost an hour but Nolan made the movie interesting with the themes of facing your fear and embracing it

[–] TheDarkKnightMatter 9 years ago

The story and character development of Bruce Wayne and Batman in Begin was better but the cinematography, acting, intensity, sucked you into the Dark Night (Knight, pun intended) of gritty violence amd story. Two completely different style of movies I would say. And Rises is a combo of the two, just think Anne Hathaway's I'm too cool and perfect persona killed it for me.

[–] dodgethat 9 years ago

I really have to say this was the best of the 3.

The back story around the world journey the fighting and battle scenes seemed a lot more plausible too . I get the terrorism theme in the second one but this was good old evil vs good nothing political

[–] DracTarashV 9 years ago

I place it above The Dark Knight for the simple fact that I'm a fan of this one. I mean, The Dark Knight is what you call a "quality film" - and I do remember enjoying most of it on my last viewing - but Batman Begins has always been a much more engrossing film to me. Plus, I think the look and tone of BB is unique compared to the sequels.

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