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incest just seems to be more prevalent in asian countries


it just does. This type of story is almost non-existent in western society.

Is this because Eastern countries are still very pre-dominantly asian, whilst Western countries have become more mixed? I think it is, if everyone looks the same I suppose incest could become easier... kinda sick to say but there ya go

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What are you basing this off of?

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I remembered another one: the japanese anime manga film X

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So?

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so that's 2

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And?

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So (see my OP)

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So your argument is that, because of two different films from two different countries, Asian countries are more prevalent in incest?

Is that it?

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2

that I can remember

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How does this support your argument again?

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because that's 2, that I can remember, probably more.

Meanwhile I have seen it zero times in popular western media.

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Meanwhile I have seen it zero times in popular western media.


Ever hear of Game of Thrones?

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Wikipedia-films with incest.... Mostly american BTW
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A
The Ages of Lulu
Aksharaya
Alex Holeh Ahavah
Alice (2002 film)
An American Haunting
Amityville II: The Possession
Angel Heart
Angels & Insects
Anklaget
Anonymous (film)
Another Gay Sequel: Gays Gone Wild!
August Underground's Mordum
An Awfully Big Adventure
B
Bad Boy Bubby
The Ballad of Jack and Rose
Beautiful Kate
The Beguiled
Black Christmas (2006 film)
Blades of Glory
Bleeders (film)
Blood for Dracula
Borat
Boudica (film)
An Alan Smithee Film: Burn Hollywood Burn
C
Caligula (film)
The Call (2013 film)
The Castle of Purity
Cat People (1982 film)
The Celebration
The Cement Garden (film)
Chinatown (1974 film)
The Cider House Rules (film)
Close My Eyes (film)
Color of Night
Common Law Cabin
Country Dance (film)
The Crazies (1973 film)
Curse of the Golden Flower
D
Damage (1992 film)
The Damned (1969 film)
Dancing at the Blue Iguana
Daniel & Ana
Daughter of Darkness (1993 film)
Day of Wrath
Desperate Living
Die, Mommie, Die!
Dogtooth (film)
Dolores Claiborne (film)
Dream Boy (film)
The Dreamers (film)
E
Elves (film)
Enter the Void
EuroTrip
F
The Final Cut (2004 film)
Andy Warhol's Frankenstein
Flexing with Monty
Flowers in the Attic (film)
Fool for Love (film)
A French Mistress
From Beginning to End
F cont.
Funeral Parade of Roses
G
The Gift (2000 film)
The Girl Who Played with Fire (film)
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (2009 film)
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (2011 film)
Girl, Interrupted (film)
H
The Hamiltons
Hamlet (1990 film)
Harry + Max
Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer
The Hills Have Eyes (1977 film)
The Hole (1997 film)
The Hotel New Hampshire (film)
The House of Usher
The House of Yes
How to Draw a Perfect Circle
I
I Spit on Your Grave 2
I Stand Alone (film)
Imaginary Heroes
Immoral Tales (film)
J
Jan Dara (2001 film)
Jessicka Rabid
Jingles the Clown
Jug Face
Julien Donkey-Boy
K
Kaboom (film)
Ken Park
Kika (film)
The King (2005 film)
Kisapmata
L
Lake Dead
Lavoura Arcaica
Lone Star (1996 film)
La Luna (1979 film)
M
Ma Mère
Magnolia (film)
The Manchurian Candidate (1962 film)
The Manchurian Candidate (2004 film)
Maundy Thursday (film)
The Miracle (1991 film)
Moebius (2013 film)
Monster Man (film)
Murmur of the Heart
My Lover My Son
N
Not Another Teen Movie
O
Obsession (1976 film)
Oldboy (2003 film)
Open House (1987 film)
Out of the Blue (1980 film)
P
The People Under the Stairs
The People vs. Larry Flynt
The Perks of Being a Wallflower (film)
Pink Flamingos
The Possession of Joel Delaney
Precious (film)
Priest (1994 film)
Private Parts (1972 film)
Q
The Quiet
R
Rivers Wash Over Me
The Rocky Horror Picture Show
S
Salò, or the 120 Days of Sodom
S cont.
Savage Grace
The Savage Is Loose
School of the Holy Beast
Scream Bloody Murder
Shadowboxer
Shattered Trust: The Shari Karney Story
The Shipping News (film)
Shock Treatment
Short Cuts
Sick Girl
Singapore Sling (1990 film)
Sister My Sister
Six Ways to Sunday
Slasher (2007 film)
Sleepwalkers (film)
Something About Amelia
Song of Songs (2005 film)
Spanking the Monkey
Spider Baby
Starcrossed (film)
Stay As You Are
Strange Circus
Summer's Blood
The Sweet Hereafter (film)
T
Taboo (2002 film)
Taboo (film series)
Teeth (film)
That's My Boy (2012 film)
The Thompsons (film)
A Thousand Acres (film)
The Toolbox Murders
Toys in the Attic (1963 film)
Triloquist
Tromeo and Juliet
Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me
Twist (film)
Twisted Obsession
U
U Turn (1997 film)
Uncle Sam (film)
The Unsaid (2001 film)
The Unseen (1980 film)
Unspeakable (2000 film)
V
Velvet Goldmine
Visitor Q
Vixen!
Volver
Voyager (film)
W
Wälsungenblut
The War Zone
Watercolor Painting in a Rainy Day
Watercolor Painting in a Rainy Day 2
What the Peeper Saw
Wicked (1998 film)
The Witch Who Came from the Sea
The Woman
Wrong Turn
Wrong Turn 2: Dead End
Wrong Turn 3: Left for Dead
Wrong Turn 4: Bloody Beginnings
Wrong Turn 5: Bloodlines

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out of all those, the only ones I've heard of are:

Blades of Glory (which I haven't seen)

Borat - which, as far as I'm concerned, is basically a Khazakstani film so either no-score draw, or even could be argued as asia

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Girl, Interrupted - which, as chance turns, I have seen and remember, it involved incest plot between a father and daughter. Perhaps I should have been more clear, I was talking about incest between brother and sister. No doubt incest between father and daughter could even be more common in american films, another one that comes to mind (which for some reason is not in the list) is Forest Gump.

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What an absolute dumbass you are. It doesn't matter what you personally have heard of. And Borat is an american/english movie.

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whoops!

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I saw ''Spanking the Monkey'' when it first came out. It blew me away. Much much more gross and graphic- and ultimately tragic- than ''Oldboy''. And ''Flowers in the Attic''- oh my god, that was huge!!! Virgina Andrews was a twisted bitch when it came to incest, lol, ALL of her books contained incest!! So it's found everywhere, all over the world, not just Asian cinema. You just have to look. Great list BTW

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Where it is really prevalent is where Islam prevails. Here is a wiki page on it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cousin_marriage_in_the_Middle_East

about 45% of marriages in the Muslim world are consanguineous (incestuous). On average, children from a consanguineous marriages have an IQ close to 10 points lower than children born from parents that are unrelated. Probably how Islam turned the cradle of civilization into a bunch of cabbage heads running around. That and Sharia Law basically calls for the death of anyone that questions Islam, which likely includes the few high IQ free thinkers that escaped the curse of incest.

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LOL thats so racist !! I have seen scandinavian movies about bad fathers touching their kids.....

It happens in all societies, some get suppressed (American), others like the scandinavians tend to expose it and deal with it.

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Go watch game of thrones. Lol

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Lol how racist! Just because Asians decide to incorporate incestual elements in movies doesn't mean that incest doesn't happen just as much outside of Asia. They just don't make movies about it.

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I can't believe this idiot got 2 pages of responses. I hope he is a troll, and not a genuine idiot. Haven't you heard of Cruel Intentions, Gladiator, the dreamers.

There that's 3 western films to 2, so Sibling incest MUST be more commonplace in Western society, obviously.

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wait-a-second, Cruel Intentions they weren't biological siblings were they?

Gladiator - you have me there, also Game of Thrones, it seems these fantastical settings it seems more prevalent. That can kinda go back to what I was saying about ppl all looking the same thou...

Third one I haven't seen. But yeh I suppose there is an argument against me.

I guess I offended with this, I didn't mean to.

edit: HOWEVER, I've kinda stumbled across ANOTHER asian example. It's not full incest but cousins (which I know is alot less gross) - Elfen Lied.

Sorry to bring it up, but there ya go.

Once again, I mean no offence with all this.

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Gladiator is not a fantastical setting. You don't even know Western history lol.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_coupled_cousins


You're a troll.

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most of those ppl are from centuries past

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you have it reversed. the ending of Oldboy shows the horror of incest in general in Asia. when incest is used in Asian films, those engaging in it MUST die or suffer horribly. even though Oldboy didn't know while it was happening.

there are a huge number of American films with incest, I see them listed below. the incest in American films is almost always attributed to 1) European royalty or 2) hicks/rednecks/hillbillies. also devout Southern Christians of low intelligence.

the truth is, in America incest is freakislhly common across all classes. because no one talks about it openly, it thrives in secret and the victims are very rarely believed.

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Dae-su was pretty disgusted about what's his name *beep* his sister. Also he went *beep* insane when he found out he boned his own daughter. Seems pretty taboo there too.

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