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Punjabis obsessed about Punjab


Don't call the people in this movie Indian. They're Punjabi, and all of them from the same small state in India. I'm a non-Punjabi Indian, and I don't get it. Why are Punjabis so obsessed with their own state, own people and own culture? Just because a Punjabi's directing this film, she put all Indian characters Punjabi. They all speak in Punjabi and dance Bhangra and all. Why can't they think of themselves as Indian and not Punjabi? Even in Bollywood, when a Punjabi like Karan Jowhar is directing a movie, he has to put all the characters to be Punjabi and they'll sing Punjabi songs. Never seen a Tamil or Bengali or Gujarati song on his films. WHY ARE PUNJABIS SO OBSESSED ABOUT THEIR OWN STATE?

If I make a movie, I'll never do that. One character will be from Punjab, another from Gujarat, another from Assam etc etc. And they'll never dance bhangra. Punjabis are all xenophobic.

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I don't know whether to find this offensive or just an opinion.

Because Punjab is holy for Sikhs, it's where Sikhism began. Punjabi's have suffered from descrimination from other religions in India which probably makes them feel like Punjab is their only home.

Bangra and Punjabi language is part of the culture and Punjabi's are very cultural. That's just how it is.

The whole reason Chadha made the film was to use it to portray her culture.

My heritage is Sikh Punjabi and trust me, we DON'T sing Punjabi songs all the time and I don't speak Punjabi. We aknowledge we're from India but Punjab is the holiest for us.

Oh and her character in Mistress Of Spices wasn't from Punjab.

P.S.
No bitchyness intended

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Alot of Punjabis (particularly male, I've noticed) are very proudy. They flaunt being Punjabi rather than Indian, whereas a Gujju or South Indian would just call themselves 'Indian'. I don't know why, but from my experience Punjabi people are incredibly into themselves and throw it in other people's faces.

I'm not at all discriminating. This is how it is for alot of Punjabis coming to Australia from India. They rather stay in their own state-groups than mix with other Indians. Also, I've seen alot of discrimination from them against Gujaratis, Bengalis and other states.

It'd be nice to see a mix of Indian nationalities in a movie, good idea.

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I'm a Punjabi but I agree that Punjabis can get a bit too much with our proudness. Half the Bhangra songs out there are about being Sher Punjabi, etc.
I think this has to do with the fact that Punjabi culture is quite a macho culture. And who can blame us? Punjab has been invaded by pretty much everyone over thousands of years so you have to learn to fight back and hold your ground.

It's not just Punjabis who will say they are Punjabi before being Indian. People from other states will do this as well.

India is not really a country, it's more a continent like Europe is.

Europeans are all white (different shades in each country), each country in Europe has it's unique culture and language but they have lots in common with other European countries as well.

The same is true with India, everyone is brown (different shades), each state has it's own language and culture but still there is something in common between all the states.

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>> WHY ARE PUNJABIS SO OBSESSED ABOUT THEIR OWN STATE?

Fair question. I've lived in Sindh, Andhra Pradesh and on the border of NWFP/Kashmir -- and none of them are quite like the Punjabis.

However, Punjabis aren't the only ethnic group like that. I married into an Irish family who immigrated from Ireland several generations ago yet they still strongly identify with being Irish! My Swish family members aren't anything like that.

Even though I don't understand it, I've been to both Ireland and Punjab and both are pretty special places and fascinating cultures.

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that's the point. we have so many different cultures over here, i don't think anywhere in the world, it would be possible to assimilate all of them. like even in India, a South Indian attending a Punjabi wedding would feel kinda weird. it's because they are completely opposite. that's why she chose just one culture. because all these cultures have different idio-syncracies, it would have been difficult to relate all of them at the same place.
and hell yeah, Punjabis and Bengalis might be two group of ethnicities whose people are obsessed about their culture. i'm a Punjabi-Hindu, i know. :/

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Your rant about Bollywood is pretty much the same complaint I have about the American entertainment industry. Basically, Hollywood and, to a lesser extent, New York, are the entertainment capitals of the US, so California and New York City tend to be so overrepresented on TV and in movies. Even when a show takes place outside of these two locations, it tend to be colored by a Hollywood or New York perspective. People only write about what they know. I wish our entertainment industry would be less lazy and more willing to draw upon outside perspectives.

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@LiveTogether


So true,so true----that's why I love indie/foreign movies, because they're mainly made outside of Hollywood, and don't have that parochial Hollywood/New York perspective governing them. Especially if you live in the Midwest--Hollywood,until recently,seemed to think that the Midwest only consisted of farmers,and anything about Chicago. Since there's more filming in Detroit and in Michigan in general nowadays, that's definitely changed.h

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Can't we all just get along?

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