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Why GTA3 will never be as good as GTA;VC

posted 16 years ago by xomonkletox
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This is just an opinion, so please don't verbally attack me :| Debates are cool, but insults against my opinion is just rude.

Okay first, Claude says absolutely nothing in this. Tommy Vercetti cussed back at whoever *beep* with him, whoever wronged him, etc. Claude would never speak, people would speak to him and he'd just stand there like this :|. It was difficult to play because there was no intensity. He seemed to just back down to the choices of others. I love Tommy Vercetti, he's my favourite video game character.

Secondly, the entire town is just so bland and boring. I find it difficult to even play it for long periods of time; unlike VC where I can play for hours on end. The atmosphere and characters in VC are just so much more fun, more life like and real.

Third, the cars are better. Haha silly reason I know, but all the cars in GTA3 are slow and boring. VC has fast bright cars that zip through the traffic.

Fourth, the pay and spray cost 1000 dollars in GTA3, while VC cost 100.

Fifth, the weapons are so much better in VC than in GTA3, simply because there is a range of them. Faster, lighter, more of them.

Don't get me wrong I LOVE GTA3! but VC is just so much better.

Claude>Tommy

Truth!

:)

[–] nylibertyfan94 16 years ago

I agree with you about the cars but i disagree with the weapons. In GTA3 they are much better and more powerful but in VC there are more weapon choices and in gta3 the coloring is kinda dull and in vc its brightt

[–] xomonkletox 16 years ago

I just love how VC is bright and not all rainy and dark.
It's easy to navigate around VC, GTA3 is very confusing with the Callahan bridge.

I just love Tommy, hahahah.

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[–] Freedom_of_Sin 16 years ago

Claude is just like me,quiet.That's why I love playing GTAIII,a silent tough guy working with different gangs,being on different sides,having an affair with mafia don's wife.

[–] RageAgainstSomeone 15 years ago

Thats a good sign of a good game franchise they always try and succeed to top there last project.

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[–] Six-Shooter 14 years ago

I thought he DIDN'T have an affair with the lady. Or am I thinking of Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories?

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[–] lightning_bellz 15 years ago

I'll agree that VC is ultimately better, but there are elements of GTA3 that in my opinion outshine VC - largely its cold humor, but also the fact you get to interfere with/kill characters intregal to its prequels!
It's funny, but you compare Claude and Tommy (both amoral sociopaths), Claude seems to me the more pure and twisted of the two - his silence, and lack of personality, make him less easy to spot before he goes on a full blown rampage - and you the player can say all the nasty things you like without accidentally crossing over your voice with someone like Tommy (not that there's anything wrong with his reactions). Tommy however is a great character as he's every 80's anti-hero gangster all rolled into one; plus he's voiced by Ray Liotta, you can't go wrong there.
Another thing I like is that thematically, GTAIII is the most dark, depressing, and ultimately uninviting game of the enitre series (not even Liberty City Stories seemed as grim). Which is why the city earns "Worst Place in America", and which is why it is so addictive to play in that city and kill everything in sight (you're probably doing them a favor).
Vice City is a more uplifting city (in all versions), but deceptively so. Everything is more interactive, you have greater abilities, and you have genuine fun when playing around that city, even when the game is at its most infuriating. Plus the nostalic 80's feel gives you an excessive rush that only a period and a town like that can provide. As for killing everything in sight, it's fun to paint the neon town red once in awhile.
Personally, I prefer VC, not only for the city's look (even though GTAIII looks all right for its time), but also its characters, and all the destructive and expendable toys you get to play with. And you get stuff for completing 100% - always nice. Better soundtrack is easily what wins it for me. What's more fun to squash innocent people with whilst in a speeding Cheetah - Italian opera or Slayer? I've made my choice.

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[–] Six-Shooter 14 years ago

Italian opera would be creepier so Italian opera.

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[–] AndreiPavlov 15 years ago

Dear "xomonkletox",
you, such-and-such, get your opinion up your arse!

OK, sorry. You did not mention the bikes/choppers. I just love to ride those different models along the streets. For me it has always been one of the best new features of GTA franchise. But I was a bit disappointed by the sharks because they were not interactive (you could not blow them to pieces like in "Jaws"). And the disappearing corpses (of course it's a PS2, not a supercomputer, but still).

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[–] truehammer 15 years ago

The game is the worst of the three but the fact is without gta 3 there would have been no Vice City and no San Andreas and that counts for a lot, this was the pioneer for a whole genre and when I first played it it was one of the few games that left me in a state of awe, I literally couldnt stop playing. Obviously its sequels have built on it but the original broke the mold.

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[–] gangstahippie 15 years ago

Another thing you could have added is the soundtrack in VC is much better.

[–] sverdrupjahn75 15 years ago

Though I loved GTA 3 when it was new, it doesn't have a chance against VC, in my opinion. VC got better music, better casting, a main character with a voice, and the whole story was much more interesting. Don't get me wrong, I take it out on a memory-spin occasionally, and I love the chatterbox, but after playing it's sequels, it's kind of a let-down.

[–] White_Thunder 14 years ago

VC is overrated, I much prefer this. There's only afew things VC have better for me and thats jumping out of cars and bikes are in it.

[–] driver_hair_dawg 13 years ago

Vice City is garbage!

GTA 3 had the best cast, best developed characters, best weapon choices (no needing to swap out machine guns or change flame thrower for rocket launcher), it had the best story, a better city where you won't drown by accidently driving up and over a curve, a better soundtrack, and an overall better game playing experience both by yourself and with friends.

The only thing VC did better was vehicle choices (among motorcycles and helicopters/airplanes) and the only reason why you couldn't fly the Dodo all that well was because of September 11th.

Tommy Vercetti is annoying and I felt all the more happier to march him toward his own demise!

For those who thought GTA 3 is too dark I say VC is way too bright. Everything was a pink and orange blur, inable to distinguish it's own buildings, cars, pedestrians, and items (oh the hidden items that were impossible to find)! Seriously, try finding a red tinted weapon amongst a red stained ground up against a pink building while wearing an obnoxious attire while fighting baddies with equally obnoxious looking attire. Try targeting baddies with a targeting system using equally as obnoxious looking colors that blend in with other obnoxious colors in the game. Try navigating a blue and pink radar system, with red targets, blue checkpoints, yellow waypoints, and other pink/orange/green flickering markers. Try driving a vehicle with camera frenzy angles, water splatter/blood splatter/dirt splatter that cover up important obstacles like--oh say--the road!

What bugs me the most is that not only is it a ripoff of nearly every 80s movie (specifically Scarface in all of its gloriousness), but that it fails to do it any justice. It became a dated B-Rated parody film on par with The Scary Movie franchise covercoated with Candyland graphics and shotty gameplay. Very little was improved from GTA 3 to VC aside from a few vehicles, an interesting Monopolizing structure (the movie industry and taxi cab company were a few joyous memories), and an ability to enter 5 buildings (The Mall being the only one of which was impressive)

Wait....I'll give it one more extra point: I did like that they allowed the character to jump out of moving vehicles (sometimes~the thing was quite picky) and an ability to duck behind cover ~ since it is the only real complaints I have about GTA 3.

[–] Tomthespacetraveler 11 years ago

The developers have stated the reason the Dodo doesn't fly is because they intended the game to be a driving and shooting game and nothing more. It had nothing to do with 9/11 as it was never programmed to fly even before then.

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[–] jpowers4667 12 years ago

I personally loved the fact that he never said anything and that we knew nothing about him. It added mystery to his character and, in my opinion, made him more of a bad ass. He was all business

[–] jpowers4667 12 years ago

And Vice City was meant to be bright. Go to Miami and see what I mean. This, of course, was what they were going for: a change in tone. I loved GTA3, bc it was gloomy and dark. The storyline and characters are great as well. Personally, out of this, VC, and SA, I feel that SA was the worst.

Bigger maps, more toys, and more things to do doesn't necessarily equal a better game. Plus, I hated the fact that the character gained/lost weight or that you had to workout. And the most important thing: I hated CJ. Didn't care for him or his story at all.

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