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Watching for the second time - Brian and Michael


Finishing the show for the second time now and enjoying the Brian character even more than last time. He's so amazingly well put together and complex. I got goosbumps in every other episode.

Just saw episode seven were Michael tells Brian that Justin was right to leave him and that no one would put up with that. Broke my heart. Again. Cried afterwards. I recognize so much of myself in Brian. Being someone entirely other person on the outside to protect myself.

Another character I've surprisingly enjoyed more this time around was Michael. And Hal Sparks acting... wow! His smile and charm just feels so real. The first time he annoyed me a bit for being too goodie two- shoes. But this time I've really enjoyed his character.

For those of you who've watched more than once: who was your most improved character?

And did your favorite character change?

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Used to think that their friendship was on an improved footing when Ted worked for Brian in seasons four and five. But watching the early eps of the show reveal that Ted was far more likely and able to show his discontent with Brian as well as his admiration. Something he could no longer do under his employ. So while Ted and Brian's later friendship was more amicable, it was less equal.

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I did not buy that Justin would go to Ben and Michael to stay when he split up with Brian. He had never had that much contact like this- he had gone to Debbie's or Mel and Linds in the past. Justin and Michael only really tolerated each other throughout the series and Justin knew Michael's feelings for Brian had not completely gone away. There are so many little references all the way through to Michael still having feelings. His spurt of anger was for himself rather than Justin, though he may have had some feelings for a fellow Brian-reject.


Great points! My guess is that Michael was already feeling raw and betrayed by Brian's actions after he and Ben moved to the suburbs and started becoming (in his mind) Stepford Fags. Brian's behavior at the dinner party was horrible, and I'm sure it embarrassed Michael a lot. He was always one to sweep Brian's bad behavior under the rug, but he couldn't let himself do it this time. So it's possible that letting Justin stay with him and Ben after the breakup was a subtle slap in the face to Brian for his extreme and out-in-the-open contempt for the lifestyle Mikey had chosen.

I'm also guessing that Ben may have had something to do with Justin staying with them. Ben had a 'saving people thing', and was a very kind person. It could be that he was just being kind. They did have a larger place by this time, and the extra room (I can't remember if Hunter had already left by this time; it's been a while since I saw these S5 episodes).

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Never thought of Jusin staying with Michael and Ben as a subtle bit of spite by Michael. It's possible, but since this show doesn't do subtle, I have some doubts. Always figured that Justin stayed with the couple because they had the room, and they had been spending a lot more time together due to "Rage" and the anti-prop 14 work.

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Both piss me off at times, but they have a good heart underneath. That's probably what endears us most to them.

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Agree. But I have much less patience for Brian. Though this might be because so many let him off the hook so often.

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