Am I the only one who found Rosemary unpleasant on the inside also?
Yeah she did volunteer work but I found her personality to be just as obnoxious and condescending as any pretty girl.
shareYeah she did volunteer work but I found her personality to be just as obnoxious and condescending as any pretty girl.
share"...obnoxious and condescending"
Maybe, but it was because she was embittered and sarcastic, after a lifetime of rejection. And she's not in a normal situation for herself; she's thinking there's something fishy about this guy who's talking about her like she's a 10. She thinks maybe he's being sarcastic, because some of his statements implied that she was thin. It's actually just more pathetic.
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Something subtle in your comment I just noticed about the movie. What it's really saying is that if you really love a morbidly obese woman, you'll think she looks like a thin, fit woman. So, the beauty standard never really changes, love somehow has the power to make you not notice how unattractive she really is!
Amy: I swear to God...I swear to God! That is NOT how you treat your human!
"... love somehow has the power to make you not notice how unattractive she really is! "
Are you sure you're wording that correctly? Or perhaps there's a Freudian slip indicating how you really feel about Rosemary.
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No, that's what I meant. The movie somehow is saying that if your spouse isn't attractive, if she has a beautiful soul, she'll look like a skinny, pretty Paltrow. Which, indirectly says that skinny and pretty is *still* what is attractive.
Amy: I swear to God...I swear to God! That is NOT how you treat your human!
That's how I felt, too. The whole "Message" of this movie just seemed phony. It's like they were saying "Yeah, inner beauty is more important and a good heart matters more than good looks ..... as long as you think she looks Gwyneth Paltrow"
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She seemed pretty dull. The way she talked so monotone she just seemed boring. I really like the girl he met in the taxi cab. I would have like it if he ended up with her much more.
shareYES i was thinking the exact same thing. Katrina seemed so much more fun.
"The movie somehow is saying that if your spouse isn't attractive, if she has a beautiful soul, she'll look like a skinny, pretty Paltrow. Which, indirectly says that skinny and pretty is *still* what is attractive."
The movie isn't saying that at all. Hal is still shallow for the entire time that he sees Rosemary as thin. It isn't until he is made aware of what happened that he realizes that there is more to loving someone than just looks, and decides to be with Rosemary in the end despite now knowing what she really looks like. It isn't until he chooses Rosemary over Jill that we really see Hal's maturation.
Katrina had a hyper laugh that was unattractive. Rosemary was sweet as well as clever.
shareHanz,
The boring, monotone part was just the Paltrow leaking out.
I liked how Rosie was kinda feisty, ("So are you the last Member?"), she was strong and confident, mostly.
She knew who she was, how she looked, and was still competitive enough to do a cannonball into the pool.
That took balls.
I think you're confusing nastiness with self-confidence. She could take it and she could dish it out, in good fun.
Can't help being hurt when someone is just mean, though. You?
I prefer the toad less raveled
I didn't say she was a bad person I just think she had an unpleasant personality. Hanz-Wilhelm is right; she was dull and boring. She would drone on and on about how amazing she was because she did volunteer work at the hospital. She never seemed to care much about Hal as a person because she was so grateful that someone was giving her the time of day to let her be so self-absorbed. Hal wasn't completely joking when he asked her how she could be so selfish, that comment was pent up for awhile. She had probably been burning a hole in his wallet for some time with all that she ate whenever they went to dinner.
shareThe thing is, Hal didn't think she was dull and boring. To him she was fun. And as Rosemary said about Ralph, he had no sense of humor and I think that was what connected Hal and Rosemary. They could laugh together and have fun and be silly (which was apparent in the hospital scene with the kids). They were both easy going. And you missed the underlying joke in what Hal said about her being selfish. The viewer is supposed to laugh at that comment because obviously Rosemary was doing the most unselfish thing imaginable by volunteering her time and caring for others. I don't remember her ever claiming to be "better" than anyone else because she volunteered at a hospital or in the Peace Corps. She was trying to be a good person. No one is perfect. Everyone has personality traits that are grating to some, but to the people who love them those traits can be dismissed. People like Rosemary feel invisible and unimportant to others because of how they look. Taking the focus off themselves and trying to make a difference in the world, they have a chance to feel like they are worthy. Everyone is entitled to feel like their lives matter. Rosemary had a strong personality. She looked out for herself and maybe that came across as overbearing at times. But she was doing what the "unbeautiful" have to do in order to survive.
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OK there are two possibilties to this thread: either you are really dumb or you're unpleasant person yourself who cannot tell the difference between someone who is genuinely nice and who is nasty soab
shareshe was a little too sarcastic for me, I understand that she did that as a defense mechanism
BUT the girl in the cab was much nicer, she was cute in her manerisms and friendly
the redhead and the girls in the club were nicer as well, They were "ugly" too but they werent condescending,
I like the movie and rosemary was nice but i do agree about what you said, that always kind of bothered me
Gwyneth Paltrow could have played her a little nicer, the only time she felt really nice was at the end before they leave
Really? Not followin' ya at all, man.
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