Unsimulated Sex - Killing Me Softly (2002) Discussion

[–] ilconformista76 20 years ago

hmm . . . you're right . . . the shadows seem to be up to something. guess heather is really committed to her art. . .

and I guess her parents aren't gonna be talking to her anytime soon.

about time someone's parents took a stance, however unproductive.

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[–] TheDarkPhoenix85 19 years ago

I guess I need to rent this movie?

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[–] ZawmerAmaden 20 years ago

I don't think that's his willy. I think you're seeing some shadow behind, maybe the edge of Joseph Fiennes' leg.

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[–] trashynome9 19 years ago

Really? Well I wouldn't be too suprised, she is an ex-porn star.

"Did you really wanna do Rex Manning"
-Empire Records

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[–] Mechphisto 19 years ago

That's a joke, right? Because of "Boogie Nights"?

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[–] trashynome9 19 years ago

No, really she did soft-core porn. I'm pretty sure at least. You might wanna research that. (smiles to self)

"Did you really wanna do Rex Manning"
-Empire Records

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[–] Mechphisto 19 years ago

Uhm, yeah, I don't think so.
Too bad there's not some database of movies that can be indexed by actor names. Something on the Internet.
Oh, there is! =)

http://imdb.com/name/nm0001287/

No porn, soft or otherwise, credits here. And considering IMDB has very single little film credit for porn as well as mainstream movies, I think it's a good bet that if she doesn't have any on her page, she hasn't done any.

Evidence for my case, take for example:
http://imdb.com/name/nm0001863/
A mainstream actress with some soft core porn to her credit.
And
http://imdb.com/name/nm0006562/
If they have all 200+ soft and hardcore porn credits for her, I don't think anyone'd be too shy to list Heather Graham's, if she had done any.

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[–] Mechphisto 19 years ago

LOL I seriously don't think it matters whether someone WANTS their name on IMDB if it's there or not.
"Ishtar" has all the actors' names. =)

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[–] Hazzer_99 19 years ago

Actually, if an actor refuses to take credit for a part, they can like disown the film or something, and IMDB has to get their permission to post it. And with out their permission... no credit.

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[–] danielmckay 19 years ago

Considering she's been getting regular roles in mainstream movies every year since she was 18 (and was in a tv movie when she was 17), I seriously doubt that she's ever done a softcore porn. Furthermore, in this internet era, if she _had_ been in a softcore porn at some point, even under a pseudonym, it would absolutely have common knowledge for years already. There is really no use arguing about it.

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[–] Hazzer_99 19 years ago

Softcore is when they pretend to have sex, but you see boobs and ass etc. Hardcore is when they actually do have sex, as in porno movies. The debate is whether this is softcore or hardcore - but we all know in reality that of course she wasn't really having sex, meaning it must be softcore.

Go to the loo, 'cause all the *beep* is coming out your mouth instead of your a-hole...

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[–] hotmrkt 17 years ago

go to MrSkin.com, it lists every nude scene, in just about every movie, ever made.

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[–] Hazzer_99 17 years ago

Um... yeah I know man. It shows this movie too. It doesn't really change the fact that this was definately softcore though.

Go to the loo, 'cause all the *beep*'s coming out your mouth instead of your a-hole...

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[–] out_on_dvd 17 years ago

and now we get to watch it in HD. w00t for me!

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[–] bobbyghandi 17 years ago

Was there need for an Ishtar joke.

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[–] Johnny-Cakes 17 years ago

Is there ever not a need for an ishtar joke?

Isnt just the thought of ishtar a joke. In fact, i believe i am laughing now merely remembering that i watched it.

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[–] o9 18 years ago

"And considering IMDB has very single little film credit for porn as well as mainstream movies"

No it doesn't.

That's pretty pathetic.

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[–] Sam-953-169285 9 years ago

It has been more than ten years. If you have not found anything steamier than this movie with Heather Graham then we can assume it does not exist. If it existed then there sure would be big discussions of it.

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[–] bluebird72 19 years ago

Yeah, I think everyone has gone off the subject just a wee bit...anyway, yeah, I was wondering how real the sex might have been during watching the film, and I am still undecided.

I cannot understand how anybody would be willing to get so intimate with a person they are just working with, and yet it looks so real.

I am gonna have to watch it again and see this mysterious 'shadow' for myself.

You've lost weight.
And you've lost your toes.

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[–] campanologist 19 years ago

of course they didn't really have sex! are you insane? if you want to watch that scene over and over and freeze-frame a shot of heather graham's butt, why do you need an excuse?

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[–] breakingglass 19 years ago

This is no Brown Bunny.

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[–] kiki_08181 19 years ago

I seriously doubt that they actually had sex for this movie. It was completely simulated. You can tell by the way Heather Graham is moving when she's on top of him... and her moaning/panting/breathing during those scenes was very fake!

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[–] obsidian_x_rose 19 years ago

Believe it or not, women do actually fake it sometimes!
And she is an actress...

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[–] obsidian_x_rose 19 years ago

LOL.

"Just noticed it randomly" while freeze framing... randomly?

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[–] dracer2-1 19 years ago

He was just looking for a shot of heather graham's ass

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[–] angel10490 19 years ago

No he was not, he was looking for Joseph Fiennes' manhood.

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[–] donlar001 19 years ago

I popped in the dvd and freeze framed the scene. Heather Graham is obviously wearing black panties that simulate a shadow while she is on top. So, I win the topic.

Freedom isn't free, no there's a hefty *beep* fee. - Team America

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[–] LWhite54 19 years ago

Sorry, but there were no panties! Also, there was no unsimulated sex either, so you're ALL wrong.

Layback
There are no stupid questions. Just stupid people ASKING questions.

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[–] yuriym1 19 years ago

just check this link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mainstream_movies_with_unsimulated_sex

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[–] The_Reviewer1204 19 years ago

-and we know Wikipedia is sooooo Reliable.

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[–] librlart 19 years ago

I think the referred to scene must be this one:
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/82386/heather_graham_sex_scene/
at 00:00:59

Well.... it looks like, as she said in "The Guru" (http://imdb.com/title/tt0280720/) - "We have wood!"

Judging from her movements, however, it really doesn't look like there's any penetration.

I saw one of those making-of extras on a recent softcore title, and the actress explained and showed how she wore a patch and the guy wears a sock... "a very little one".... (http://imdb.com/title/tt0347014/) I don't know if that's standard procedure.

Every time I see these sorts of things now, I think, "that poor guy... they had to jump all over each other and they never got 'to close.'" I can't believe I'm up late writing about this!

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[–] Kyuky 19 years ago

Greeeeat link!

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[–] Kyuky 19 years ago

I for one know I do....I'm just bridging a gap till I get one

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[–] gatsby74 19 years ago

I think I found that "shadow" you guys were talking about...it doesn't look too much like a shadow to me. You can see a small glimpse of shiny skin on the "shadow" you were talking about.

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[–] eewvase-1 19 years ago

Watch the first sex scene closely. Especially when Fiennes carries Heather. There genitals are glued together. Then when he kneels their genitals are still stuck together. Heather is really riding him. Watch her buttocks.

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