Did Hoyt kill Lisa?

It's left up to the viewer to interpret their own way, but I see it as Lisa was killed.

Yes, that's surely what we're meant to take away. It's a silly plot point though - the only one in SFU that really bothers me. It doesn't lead to anything, so why not leave Lisa's death ambiguous rather than go into soap territory?


I’ll be waiting, with a gun and a pack of sandwiches.

Yes, that's why he killed himself.

It's pretty safe to assume he did, and I don't think this is SOAP. Many women disappear without real resolution of the case without ID of the perpetrator and statistically the vast majority are well known to their victims.

I actually really like Untitled (season 4 finale). The ending always was haunting to me. Lisa's whole involvement with him. Does this explain why she seemed to happy to be visiting her sister? How she wasn't as nagging to Nate those final moments before she disappeared? Because she knew she was going to get laid by her "guy on the side". When dude kills himself with the gun, it made me think he indeed drown her. Remember, Lisa knew how to swim. Keith brought that up in Season 3 during the investigation process. So someone else caused her to drown.

I do wish there had been more closure with Lisa's sister and Nate, because she was always a bit cold towards him after Lisa's death. Ditto about Lisa's parents. Season 5 (not my favorite, until the final episodes) sort of hopped along and really focused on George and Ruth, Claire and her office boyfriend- and I HATED Claire in season 5- and Nate, Brenda and "the new Lisa" so to speak.

Still, Untitled is a epic episode to me.

I just binge watched it this week. All my friends watched it at the time and I only watched the final season back then. I didn't know who anyone was or really the finale, so it was a new experience for me.

I definitely think Hoyt killed himself because he killed Lisa. Everyone was so effed up on the show that a little adultery with the wife's sister probably wouldn't bring him to swallow a pistol. I figured they brought Lisa's affair with him into the script just so the audience would question Maya's paternity, otherwise it seemed so random and unnecessary.