Disgusting!
I was grossed out by the behaviour in the chocolate production line where Josephine was licking her fingers and picking chocolate off the spatula and eating it. Repulsive!
shareI was grossed out by the behaviour in the chocolate production line where Josephine was licking her fingers and picking chocolate off the spatula and eating it. Repulsive!
shareyes, truelly rupulsive!!!!
Get a life!!!!
Whereas I don't think that is acceptable for a shop, have you never done that at home??? As a child baking a cake?
Oh no, too many germs!
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> yes, truelly rupulsive!!!!
You're not saying RuPaul would do that, are you?
> Whereas I don't think that is acceptable for a shop, have you never done that at home???
Well, precisely: in the movie it is a shop, in France, no less, renowned for culinary excellence.
I have seen chefs like Gordon Ramsey do it on TV too. Chefs do it all the time, didn't you know :) Yes, even in the best restaurants in the world.
shareTV is one thing.
But licking your finger or a knife that goes into a fresh product that could sit on the shelf for days or weeks should get the place closed down.
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> As pointed out almost every cook does this.
Yes.
But that is fine, to taste the food. Not to lick a spatula (I said knife in error 2nd time) and put it back into frosting or something that will not be cooked afterwards.
No wonder there is so much salmonella and crap in prepacked vegetables and so on.
Every piece of food I eat has NOT been handled by others. I have a veggie garden. And handling something TO BE COOKED is totally different from what was going on in the movie. If you can't see that, you have no clue.
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Eh, my first instinct is, "That's why I have an immune system." No use in fretting too much. Yes, places with poor hygiene standards should be reprimanded, but I want my food to taste good. Otherwise, I'll go home and make it myself. I'm a good cook.
And FYI: To the best of my knowledge, people don't carrying salmonella around in their saliva. That comes from tainted water supplies, mass food production, and not washing dishes and surfaces after handling raw meat and egg. And even then, only 1 in 40,000 eggs has salmonella.
From Wiki (which, by my own admission, is, of course, the most trustworthy site ever, but all the same this might be of some use to the current discussion):
"Constitutes a group consisting of potentially all other serotypes (over a thousand) of the Salmonella bacterium, most of which have never been found in humans. These are encountered in various Salmonella species, most having never been linked to a specific host, and can also infect humans. It is therefore a zoonotic disease. The organism enters through the digestive tract and must be ingested in large numbers to cause disease in healthy adults. Gastric acidity is responsible for the destruction of the majority of ingested bacteria. The infection usually occurs as a result of massive ingestion of foods in which the bacteria are highly concentrated similarly to a culture medium.
"Sources of infection
-Unclean food, particularly in institutional kitchens and restaurants,
-Excretions from either sick or infected but apparently clinically healthy people and animals (especially endangered are caregivers and animals),
-Polluted surface water and standing water (such as in shower hoses or unused water dispensers),
-Unhygienically thawed fowl (the meltwater contains many bacteria),
-An association with reptiles (pet tortoises and snakes)(primarily aquatic turtles) is well described."
Jesus H, I didn't say salmonella is in saliva. I said people are clueless, hence salmonella in packaged salad and bought by people too dumb to wash the stuff even.
share> I have a veggie garden.
You mean you eat food that has grown in manure & crapped on by countless bugs.
Now THAT is disgusting!!!
Testing the food is not the issue. Sticking the licked utensil back in it is. Sure it won't matter if you cook the stew another 15 minutes, but with the chocolate, they are already making candies. You can't just boil chocolate another 5-10 minutes. It must be tempered just so. So, licking and dipping is like double dipping at the salad bar. A hazard.
But none of you get it. Fine.
I agree with you. Its inhygenic. I taste my food when I prepare it, but I not in such a way that negatively affects the product.
Many people feel you've overrected- a bit of siliva could contract certain sti's, but not salmonella and mostly it seems harmless and picky. But personally, I feel their exagerration of what you implied far outweighs your seemingly obvious view.
Because its obviously "dirty"? Not the end of the world, but its enough to deter me from it a bit. Out of that or chocolate untampered with, I'd take the latter!
Hmmm well if this type of behavior is something you fear, I suggest you never ever eat in a restaurant again, and I'd steer clear of anything you buy in a supermarket. Things drop on the floor, something doesn't get washed, spoons get licked. That's why we have an immune system. The reality of life is that we as humans have more cells of bacteria in our bodies than human cells. Really. And to go onto a related subject in this thread -- this movie is set in 1959 France ---- eating raw eggs and the threat of salmonella was pretty much nonexistent. Salmonella, and mad cow, and many other food born illnesses are a relatively recent phenomenon, brought on by our industrial food machines practice of rampant antibiotic use and ingredients in contemporary feed. And what exactly do you think your'e going to catch from that freshly licked product sitting on the shelves for days or weeks? And I assume that you don't kiss on the lips, or go "down there"... Disgusting!!! ;o)
"Have I had an abortion? I've had more kids pulled out of me than a burning orphanage."
> And I assume that you don't kiss on the lips, or go "down there"... Disgusting!!! ;o)
Not with random shop workers who let their bacteria grow for a couple of weeks in the shop, no.
i agree with everything you have said..
it is gross, the place should shut down....
Reminds me of most first-time mothers I've known. Sterilizing and sanitizing all day long, for months. When they find baby chewing Daddy's shoe, a light bulb goes off for some. Second-time moms are usually much saner.
shareYa, and it's a big no no around the kitchen. A guy on the chef competition show got a big dressing down for it. It's unsanitary and gross.
shareChef Mike, "You will eat my saliva and like it, otherwise you do not need to eat here, there are plenty that will take your table and love it you sad pathetic little man."
Perhaps an addition to the rating system? Warning, this is a movie and any resemblance to approved food handling techniques is purely coincidental. No one should use this movie as a guide to making chocolate. in particularly if they wish to 'reignite' the passion in their marriage.
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Seriously?? Disgusting?! as its pointed out here many chefs do it, not only that but this is a movie and even if it wasn't it still isn't disgusting, here we assume that the she has fairly clean hands (reasonable assumption I would say.)
shareYes, I think it was very hard for me to suspend my disbelief on this point as I have seen so many cases of food poisoning and bad food preparation in my travels around the world. I'm not a coward - I've eaten freshly cooked chicken from a basket off someone's head at a train station in southeast Asia. But dirty is dirty and I love food and licking a utensil and putting it back in something that goes on the shelf to grow bacteria is horrifying to me.
I don't eat in restaurants much. I eat good food. :) And what about those prepackaged salad bags in the grocery store. Don't get me started.
Funny, I don't have any problem with unusual and unbelievable premises. I loved Erik the Viking, The Ninth Gate, ridiculous comedies, and recently I watched The Boy in the Striped Pajamas (unrealistic factually, but emotionally realistic). I guess as a food lover well aware of quality and professionalism, I found it more jarring than most. Because face it, most North Americans can't cook, eat prepackaged meals at home and eat out several times a week, and don't know how to grow their own vegetables and fruit.
...I thought it was gross too.
I cook, and I don't believe in letting your saliva touch public food either, at least not in such a direct manner. Sure, taste your finger, but don't freaking lick the knife.
Yay, at least one other person can actually cook and understand a bit about microorganisms! :)
sharekeep in mind the era the film is from. Food Prep standards were different then.
Plus get a life. When you worry obsessively about germs, you are wasting precious time to actually enjoy the world
>Plus get a life. When you worry obsessively about germs, you are wasting precious time to actually enjoy the world
Get a life yourself. I guess what you say about people who worry obsessively is true, but I was simply pointing out a jarring moment in the film. I go with Carlin's "eat it off the floor," but MY floor, not some place with other people's filth, thanks.
...but I was simply pointing out a jarring moment in the film.
> keep in mind the era the film is from. Food Prep standards were different then.
It's set in 1960, before I was born, but hardly another era. Canning, invented in France in 1806, has been a thing for a while. I suggest the French know the importance of quality and proper care of processed foods! Clearly better than you do.
It is disgusting in today's super germaphobic atmosphere. It was not that many years ago that it was not unacceptable for a cook to taste food and reuse the spoon.
Plus, it is a movie, lighten up.
*in a George Takei voice* Ohh myyy! Seems we have a traditionalist in our midst! Go back to church!
Here's a slinky, go play.
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Actually it was wonderful. I'd like that girl lick all my spatulas! Get life, frog.
shareI'd like that girl lick all my spatulas!Look at the positives.It brings new meaning to the idea of home cooking. share