101 times Lorelai Gilmore was completely out of line. - Gilmore Girls (2000) Discussion

[–] ktcat88 9 years ago

4) when she acted like a complete brat to the man planning her and Christopher's wedding party

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[–] MrsCRT 9 years ago

5) At the baptism of Sookie's kids when she and Rory walked out WITH the kids to have an argument.

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[–] mrmrs2005 9 years ago

6) When she told Luke "Don't get engaged" before his trip with Nicole.

And NOBODY in all of Oz,
No wizard that there is or was,
Is ever gonna bring me down!

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[–] GiaLee24 9 years ago

This one wasn't real. Luke was dreaming this after the graduation.

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[–] mrmrs2005 9 years ago

7) When she told Rory that she stretches out her sweaters because she was mad/jealous that Rory had fun golfing with Richard. (The boob fight)

And NOBODY in all of Oz,
No wizard that there is or was,
Is ever gonna bring me down!

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[–] MrsCRT 9 years ago

I always cringe during that scene.

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[–] alisonhh1 9 years ago

8) When she talks to Chris after she babysits Gigi, Lorelei tells him she needs discipline (mostly justified) and calls Gigi "possessed" (out of line.)

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[–] fishpan 9 years ago

Other ones with Gigi.

When Lorelai and Chris get married and he moves in but Gigi can't until Lorelai squares things with HER GROWN daughter. Sorry the little one comes first.

When Rory and Lorelai discuss the letter Lorelai wrote for Luke while stringing popcorn with Gigi while going on about how Chris shouldn't know about the letter. So yeah telling Rory about it but simply assuming the young child sitting beside them won't pick up that her new mother and sister are keeping things from her dad.

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[–] MrsDuRona 9 years ago

When Lorelai and Chris get married and he moves in but Gigi can't until Lorelai squares things with HER GROWN daughter. Sorry the little one comes first.

Gigi was still away in France with her mom at that point. Lorelai just had issue with completely re-arranging Rory's old room until she'd had a chance to talk it out with her.

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[–] ehall10 8 years ago

I think the possessed comment was out of line, but calling him out on her needing to understand the word "no" and her needing discipline were absolutely not out of line. The child was an absolute nightmare.

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[–] Boopinout 9 years ago

The only two times I completely disagreed with Lorelai have already been mentioned. When she freaked over Rory's multiple college applications and when she and Rory got into a fight at Sookie's baby's christening.

Is this turnout weak or what? I had at least 70 more people at my funeral.

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[–] MyLily 9 years ago

Lorelei made Rory feel like absolute *beep* after Rory's first time having sex. Yes, Dean was a married man and yes she should of thought more about it before it happened but sometimes things do happen in the heat of the moment and they were safe. Lorelei took something that was supposed to be a special moment and literally abused her emotionally about it. I don't blame Rory for running off to Europe for the summer.

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[–] perfect_lover2012 9 years ago

Lorelai reacted way better than other parents would have especially given that they live in a small town and Rory slept with him in her house. The fact that Rory even had the opportunity to run away to Europe is mind boggling.

"When life gives you lemons"
Jessica D: sleep with their fathers and have secret lemon children

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[–] NamelessinNewJersey 9 years ago

I agree with Lorelai 100% on this one. All things considered, I thought she was actually very restrained. She didn't say, "Get out of my sight, you little home-wrecking slut." She just plainly spoke the truth that Rory was refusing to really own up to: that she's in an affair with a married man. Rory wants to talk around that, pretending that it's not really cheating just because "they aren't happy" and because Dean is somehow "hers" ("my Dean"). Lorelai won't let her get away with that, and rightly so. Rory deserved the reality check much more than she deserved to enjoy her "special moment."

Meanwhile, I thought Lorelai's tone was exactly right. She was understandably worried and disturbed because she discovered her daughter doing something not-okay, but she's the one who was staying relatively calm and keeping the lines of communication open. Rory was the one acting unreasonable and burying her head in the sand.

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[–] doubledoubletoiltrouble9 9 years ago

Totally agree with you. Rory screwed up. Dean was a married man and if he was unhappy or they were not working out then he legally separates and then he is free to have a relationship with someone else. Lorelai was very factual and highly disappointed but she didn't have a tantrum. ....Rory did.

Not my circus---not my monkeys

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[–] chelpablo 8 years ago

I totally agree too. This was very out of character for Rory. Lorelai handled it much better than other mothers would have.

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[–] SansaStarkNJ 8 years ago

Lorelei handled it much better than my mother would have. If my mom pretty much walked in on me at 19 years old, having sex with a married man - under her roof - she would have handed my a$$ to me.

I don't need ANY of you. I can go back to the Mommie Dearest board at ANY time! Just know THAT!

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[–] super-staff 9 years ago

Of all the things that fans trash Lorelai for, this is the one I can't understand. Rory's first time was with a married man, one that she claimed was hers. No, Lorelai did the right thing by giving her daughter a reality check. Rory was entirely wrong, and having sex with someone who is taken should never be celebrated or deemed romantic. It makes me wonder how people would feel if they were in Lindsay's place, waiting at home with a roast she worked hard to make and having done housework all day, for a husband who's off making it with another woman and giving her the affection his wife deserves/needs.

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[–] bjamzilla 9 years ago

I agree. Lorelai wasn't even judgemental she was just so stunned that Rory could do something so wrong, and not even think it's wrong.

Wildcattin'...Wildcattin'. Pow! I'm gonna go.

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[–] mrmrs2005 9 years ago

sometimes things do happen in the heat of the moment

That is true. It was the heat of the moment. And she could have stopped it. She didn't. So she should take responsibility for it.

Lorelei took something that was supposed to be a special moment and literally abused her emotionally about it

Rory ruined her own special moment, not Lorelai. Rory decided to be selfish and sleep with another woman's husband for her first time. I doubt that is how she wanted her special moment to go. So if it was ruined, it was of her own making.

All Lorelai did was point out what Rory did, and Rory didn't like that. Rory rationalized it was with Dean, someone who loved her, so it was OK and they were safe. She made herself believe it was all OK because Dean loved her first, and that he didn't love Lindsay anymore - so it was all OK. She was trying to justify her actions through rose-colored glasses and Lorelai wanted her to see clearly. She didn't even yell at her, really. Rory is the one who acted like a brat and stormed out, proving how 'mature and responsible' she was to have sex with a married man and yell back at her mother.

Rory's running away with her grandmother was equivalent to a 8-year-old running away from home because she came home from school with a note saying she hit another student. "Mommy why aren't you defending me? I wanted it, so I took it. Why is that wrong? Fine, I'll go live with Grandma".

It took Rory a while, but even she realized she was wrong about the incident.

And NOBODY in all of Oz,
No wizard that there is or was,
Is ever gonna bring me down!

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[–] FlyingTampon 9 years ago

Can't believe this hasn't been covered yet, when she slept with Christopher after giving Luke an ultimatum about marrying her.

Throughout the seasons (I just started season 7), it's becoming more apparent that Lorelai isn't marriage-material by her behavior and how she conducts herself in relationships. I mean, if she were marriage-material, she would have been married at least once by 38 years old.

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[–] AveryRyan4 9 years ago

That's actually one of Lorelai's shining moments in my eyes. The whole reaction to that debacle was spot on and I loved that she didn't sugar coat it and put Rory in her place. It was exactly what a Mother and a good friend should do.

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[–] mrmrs2005 9 years ago

Yep! I was very pleased with the way Lorelai responded to that event.

The person I replied to had said "Lorelei made Rory feel like absolute *beep* after Rory's first time having sex." But if Rory was feeling bad about it - it was of her own doing and her own guilt. That definitely doesn't fall under the category of : 101 times Lorelai Gilmore was completely out of line.

And NOBODY in all of Oz,
No wizard that there is or was,
Is ever gonna bring me down!

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[–] hchudy 9 years ago

I agree. And the scene afterwards showed how right Lorelai was that time. If you call the guy you just had sex with and his WIFE answers the phone, you probably didn't use your best judgement.

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[–] forksforrests 9 years ago

I think it was karma. The way she acted when she overheard Paris's sex convo with Rory ("I have the good kid"--wtf?). It came to bite her in the ass. Rory fully deserved what she got for sleeping with a married man AND acting arrogant about it. Lor told her off and Lor had that situation coming because she acts like Rory walks on water and she needed a reality check every now and then.

A rose is just a rose.

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[–] stayalivein85 9 years ago

I wanna hug you for this post! It was so unjustified to call Rory the good kid. Paris didn't go out and have sex with some random guy. She and Jamie were dating for months, they were safe, and Paris was 18 at that point. I *hate* that sex on the show apparently always meant unprotected sex. What's wrong with having sex when you're 18 and in a long lasting relationship?

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[–] perfect_lover2012 9 years ago

Yeah Lorelai has a very twisted understanding of sex. Rory would've had sex with Jess if he stuck around long enough. Jamie was a nice guy who loved, so what's the problem? It was so judgmental and ignorant to say.

"When life gives you lemons"
Jessica D: sleep with their fathers and have secret lemon children

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[–] stayalivein85 9 years ago

Not only that, but it also implies Lorelai agrees with her parents regarding premarital sex. If a character like Emily, or Mrs Kim would have made a comment like that, it would be in character. But Lorelai thinking abstinence equals being good is so effed up IMO, and not true to her character.

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[–] hillarycweeks 8 years ago

I feel like she handled this one well, actually.
Rory expected her mom to like highfive her or something for sleeping with a married man. Rory was completely in the wrong, and Lorelai was actually very patient with her when she explained how it was wrong.
I actively dislike Lorelai much of the time, but on this, she was completely justified and handled the situation very well.

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[–] Agashi 9 years ago

To piggy-back on the whole Lorelai/marriage thing, I'm suprised no one's mentioned her basically leaving Max at the altar, and never even calling him to apologize for it afterward. She only ever DOES apologize like a year later, when they run into each other at Chilton, and she pretty much has to.

I felt so sorry for Max in that scene, especially since he was clearly still not over it. He didn't deserve that.

Theatricality and deception are powerful agents against the uninitiated.

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[–] forksforrests 9 years ago

Yes, this would fall in my top 5. Max was a really nice guy and Lorelai just ran out on him. Without a call or a message or a discussion. She acted like such a kid (no wonder Rory always runs to Emily when things get tough. They're both made from the same immature cloth) and Max deserved a lot better.

A rose is just a rose.

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[–] stayalivein85 9 years ago

Max was a really nice guy and Lorelai just ran out on him. Without a call or a message or a discussion.

To be fair, it was mentioned that Lorelai called Max to break up with him.

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[–] forksforrests 9 years ago

She called him after ran out though, right? And I don't really think that's anything. He was her fiancé! Not some two week boyfriend. She owed him a lot more than a call.

A rose is just a rose.

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[–] stayalivein85 9 years ago

Oh, that's for sure. You don't break up an engagement over the phone. You also don't propose marriage over the phone when you very well could have been there in person. So to me, it was weirdly symmetrical.

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