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Is anyone's life really like this?


Be honest. I won't judge you. Does this resemeble your life or anyone's you know in anyway? I'm not for or againist the film in this message: It will just help me understand why some of the kids who appeared to have it all and were considered "normal" actually had some wounds too. We all judged each other and hated each other as humans for some reasons, but, even looking back as a 36 year old, maybe those who I envied had less than me if their lives were like this. (No bulls@@t-artists, please.)

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Psycho kids. Step-dads touching their step-kids. That's believable. Maybe I'm just sheltered, but I find the whole religious extremist dad & his smart (yet secretly slutty) daughter far fetched as with the mom getting with her daughter's boyfriend. But then again it's set in California supposedly true to life -- it must be all that sunshine and beautiful topography that makes ya'll crazy out there (I'm joking).

2014: Whiplash, Cold in July, that Terrence Malick project set in Austin

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The scene between Shawn and his little brother actually did happen to me, and often. The film portrayed the interaction EXACTLY how it happened, when I was around 15 (he was 22). I went to three different therapists (first two due to me acting out in anger towards my parents), but it was only the third one (in College) that I revealed my romanticizing of the abuse; she told me that I experience a form of post traumatic stress. Though I have made some ground (no longer experience the recurring erotic nightmares), I still have great difficulty forming relationships (platonic or sexual), learning to accept and love myself, controlling sexual arousal patterns, etc... I hear stories of people coming out of abusive environments and getting married, having families, etc.. I honestly don't have a clue how they do it. I feel like I am trapped in this broken record of 15 years old. I am 32 years old now and have yet had sex or kissed anyone. I am afraid that I have missed my chance at that type of life. I met a guy at work whom I suspect comes from a traumatic childhood and really wanted to connect with him on some level, but even he doesn't want to open up to me. I don't know what I am doing wrong in this life. I've been hesitant with pursuing my "career," using my college degree to find a sustainable job, until I get a handle on all this but it's not been happening for me. I cannot live in my parents' basement forever. My point is that abuse of any kind can be debilitating, depending on the person's tolerance. Some people walk away from this without a scratch while others struggle for years to get their ducks in a row. How much longer before I finally find my place in this world?

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Funny I made a post here and it's gone. Did some trigger-happy mod delete it? Couldn't you at least have the courtesy to say "This post was deleted by an administrator" or whatever the message is?

My answer, again, to the thread is, yes, individually, some kids' lives are similar to the film. There are indeed teen suicides, pregnancy, and "experimentation" with things such as auto-erotic asphyxiation.

But nowhere in the world does everything that happens in the film could happen within the same proximity of people in the exact same neighborhood. Otherwise it's an abberation. If the movie treated the events as such then I might give it a fairer shake, but it tries so hard to say "this is REAL LIFE man this is TEEN REALITY" that I just want to tell the movie to piss right off. Gummo, as much as I hate that movie, at least didn't pretend that its strange world was anything but.

Like I said, individually, cases as shown in the movie happen. But often when they do happen it's newsworthy, at a local level if nothing else because it's not exactly representative of an average teen's everyday ritual. When you throw all of that into one concentrated area among one group of friends within the same few days or week then my suspension of disbelief is ravaged and eaten by hordes of flying yeti pigmen demons who just opened up a black hole in the earth leading straight to Rainbow Technicolor Hell where Satan himself is actually an anthropomorphic glass of grapefruit juice who communicates via vuvuzela. I mean a kid commits suicide by gunshot to the head in a public park with a camcorder with a creepy smile on his face, another kid is having sexual relations with his girlfriend's MILF of a mother, another has a hysterically religious father who beats up kids tied to beds in their underwear then proceeds to "marry" their daughter to atone for her sins or some *beep* another has your average abusive drunk of a father who turns out, *GASP* to also be an incestuous pedophile! Another does the whole masturbating while hanging thing as I mentioned then proceeds to stab his grandparents to death while nude, blood-splattered and with a hard-on as he so delightfully explains, all culminating in a friends-with-benefits three-way where everyone is a sexual dynamo bordering on porno professional without the slightest bit of awkwardness, and unprotected at that (really, with the detail they show you can see nobody's wearing a condom, funny coming from Larry "I did a movie showing the dangers of kids getting AIDS from unprotected sex!" Clark). And teen pregnancy, that's probably the most normal part of the movie. And in case I haven't spelled it out clearly enough already, all of this happens within the same few days, among the same group of friends in the same town for no reason whatsoever other than that Larry Clark wants to "shock" people into a nonexistent reality dressed up as such, or a bizarre reality that doesn't acknowledge that these coincidental flights of fancy are in fact bizarre or coincidental. It makes Paul Haggis' Crash look like a Ken Loach film in terms of social realism.

The movie from what I read takes place in Visalia, CA. As OanCitizen wondered, "Is there something in the water here?" That's the only justification for the whole story and structure of the movie and its characters. Some of that bad Gummo and Trash Humpers water trickled down into this nice little suburban town causing a singularity where everything we know about reality and human psychology to break down and shatter like tiny bits of glass.

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Yeah, like most people have said, the film isn't completely realistic but if it was it probably wouldn't be all that interesting. Some of the situations might and have already happened in real life, for example, Tate killing his grandparents. That's not uncommon, actually. I think the most realistic characters in "Ken Park" are Claude and Peaches. It's not hard to find extremely religious or careless parents, though you have to remember the film is exaggerated to a point to create more drama, and shock people, as Larry Clark likes to do.

I never had many friends. In fact, there is only one person in this world I would consider to be my "friend" and even then sometimes I feel like I don't have anybody to love me in this world. I also never liked my family... it's all too complicated to explain, but you get the point. I resemble Peaches and Tate a little bit in the way that I am somewhat crazy and that I have a religious parent (though not as obsessive like Peaches's father).

I am somewhat sheltered and I never did anything the characters do, but still...

Some teenagers really are like that...

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