WAYYYYY TOO MUCH MALE NUDITY

"I agree, but what does this have to do with nudity in movies?"
A: It has everything to do with the nudity in movies. It is unnecessary, if it was necessary - you'd get it from a porn.

"Define normal? Because this movie clearly wasen't ever intended to be."
A: Normal = All movies that claim to NOT be porno.

"In most movies their isn't any need for it, but in others there is. It's called realism. If someone is taking a shower or having sex, they should be nude otherwise it's unrealistic. If you don't want to see nudity, avoid movies that have scenes like this. That's why we have a ratings system."
A: Good idea... Not. If I were to do that I couldn't see any movies anymore. What if I want to see the rest of the movie which is good? While the nude scenes wouldn't have harmed the story if they were CUT. I'm for realistic movies, but showing nudity isn't the kind of reality you need in a movie. It is just as effectful in the movies where the shower-scene is not shown completely. Everybody get the idea that they're in the shower - but it's less harmful and would have gotten a better RATING for it = Viewable for more people.
There never is a need for it.

"Whores get paid to have sex! Nobody pays a whore just to get naked, those are called models. In anycase if any actor decides to act out a part in a film where nudity is part of the script, you label them a whore huh! Real mature."
A: That would be your definition. My definition of a whore is anyone who would place sexual arousal, lust and satisfaction in people for money. It all has to do with sex, sex in exchange for money. And penetration isn't the only way to have sex. Strippers, whores, pornstars, actresses... Actresses are doing the same as pornstars do. Sad how it has become so accepted for people to behave like this. It has nothing to do with maturity, better women with more respect for themselves wouldn't NEED to be naked in movies just because it's "part of the script". BTW, how would you know what people pay whores to do and not? Maybe they just like to watch, like strippers, while they masturbate to it, same as probably lots of guys would do to "normal" movies.

"Actually there is a lot of acting in sex scenes and if you've ever heard a real actor talk about filming them, you would realize that they are some of the most difficult scenes to act and require total professionalism and dedication."
A: It is the most difficult because sex is supposed to be a personal thing. You are naked and in a private moment, only they need to care what they look like while doing it, focusing on lines and everything. It is not great acting, the hard part is because you're lying there for the wrong reasons.

"Art is a subjective term isn't it. One persons art is another persons trash. Since Michaelangelo's David is one of the most famous pieces of art in history, I think many people would disagree with you."
A: They sure do. And art, as critics claim and everyone else who think they know something about this, is not seemed subjective at all. They classify it as well.
So, if what you're saying is true - then I can say Michaelangelo's "art" sucked, and then all those who disagreed with me would claim it WAS art - and I'd be wrong, because again, the majority decides. Right?

"Based on your comments, you are obviously a) an American, b) incapable of appreciating nudity as art and c) associate any form of nudity (no matter what the intentions are) with perversion, which may say something about you."
A: Says nothing about me. If you had bothered to check, you'd see I am not an American. I don't associate nudity with perversion, I associate it with privacy, something personal which you are not supposed to show around to whoever wants to watch, for money. So that leaves B. I am "incapable" because it isn't art. Walk around naked, film yourself, do whatever naked, it isn't art. Nudity is natural, something that IS, art is something that you make.
I just think nudity in itself isn't worthy of being art just because it's nude. It's not like any of the sexscenes in movies are made to make you think "wow, artistic". Usually it is just "wow, what a hottie!".

"One that you probably never really considered because of your upbringing. In Europe, nudity is shown on television and nobody cares about it, do you know why? It's not because Europeans are a bunch of sexual perverts, it's because they aren't."
A: I am European, so I am well aware of it. And they should care about it. No matter how normal and natural it is, doesn't mean it is a good thing to watch OTHER people naked just to prove they are not perverts. Nothing good comes out of it. Frankly, it would have been a lot better if there were no nudity at all on TV. That way it would be something you'd reserve for the one you should be reserving it for.

"Ken Park was not really that great of a movie, but doesn't deserve to be at disregarded because they show nudity. The movie should have been judged on it's overall content."
A: And it would still suck. I don't know any teenagers who act like these at all. It isn't realistic. It is just another movie trying to shock people on purpose by showing you the lowest they can think of. The worst, darkest and most depressing sides of human nature. As usual.




Also, another reason why I don't like nudity in movies, especially American movies, but all others as well, is that it is discriminating. It is almost always women, and they all are thin and "hot". It is rather boring seeing the same nude- and sexscenes over and over again.
Focusing on nudity in this way is going to create more discrimination. They will get used to seeing all that which is not good for them or others self image.

Perhaps instead of voicing typical euortrash opinions of the states you should actually see some US tv. Citing only one example HBO tv shows have much more nudity (and yes, male nudity) than any european tv shows, (not movies). I know this from experience as I have been living in Spain for nearly two decades, and when you are lucky enough to see "explicit" US programming, (even South Park!) its always in the wee hours (12 am+), not prime time like in the "puritanical" us!!!!