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One of the most historically inaccurate films ever made


Benjamin Martin or Francis Marion in real history was a huge bigot and enjoyed hunting down Native Americans for sport, and he was also known to rape his female slaves. This film portrays him as a huge hero. Mel Gibson should be ashamed to have played this guy.

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The Native Americans split apart. Some supported the Patriots and some supported the Loyalists. Those that supported the losing side have nothing to complain about. After all, we did not kill them all, just some.


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lol liar

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You've been busy. Short, personalized, irrelevant messages, though. Maybe if you sleep it off and come back you can think of something to write.


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the native americans have everything to be angry about its their land you ignorant person

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Just like Ireland belongs to the Irish, Australia to the Australian Aborigines, Canada to the Inuit, and so on.

You just cannot accept defeat and move on. Go to a football game, get drunk, and riot, you silly English person.



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shut up you moron.

nothing worse then scum who supports a cause against a people meanwhile you are doing exactly the same.

DISGUSTING now goto a hand egg game and work on that diabetes, maybe shoot someone at a movie later on.

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In addition,

Mel Gibson's fictional character, Benjamin Martin was an amalgam of the best achievements of three GREAT American Heroes, Francis Marion, Thomas Sumter, and Andrew Pickens. After General Cornwallis defeated General Gates at the battle of Camden they carried on the war for a year.

I suspect that you know well what happened in the summer and fall of 1781 that resulted in General Cornwallis retreating to and holding up for the winter in YORKTOWN, Virginia.

The biggest debt that we owe the French is not for their ground troops that joined General Washington, but for their naval fleet under Admiral de Grasse. (I'm not sure that I've spelled that correctly, cut me some slack if you would) Certainly, the Battle of the Chesapeake is the most overlooked and under appreciated (by Americans) battle of the Revolutionary War.

All that being said, and while I value the friendship between the two greatest English speaking countries in the world, I do not think that we owe any apologies to any prisoner of Mother England for "The Patriot."


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What? It's not a documentary??? Say it ain't so!!!

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Benjamin Martin or Francis Marion in real history was a huge bigot ... This film portrays him as a huge hero.
Love you to demonstrate where this fictional film was ever promoted, anywhere, as a biopic of Francis Marion.🐭

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Mel Gibson has a hard time telling the truth. Unless he's drunk. Braveheart was a complete lie too. But he won 2 wars in his mind. He does know storytelling.





Lawrence of Arbia, he was an English guy who came to fight the Turkish

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As soon as someone is placed upon a pedestal a historical "photoshoping" is a prerequisite. Nobody wants their heroes to have flaws even if their flaws weren't considered such in their own time period. However I disagree with the assumption it is totally historically inaccurate. History is not just about recounting events it also about how events are portrayed. It can reveal a lot about the mentality of a society and what values are important to that society. The way an event or person is mythologised is a great way to examine ideological and social changes through time. If you were to look through the centuries of literature on Andrew Pickens, Francis Marion, Daniel Morgan and Thomas Sumter you will find that their character descriptions have been rewritten constantly in order to fit the prevailing ideologies of the day. The Patriot is an accumulation of all those reworked stories and those myths are as much a part of American history as the factual characterizations are.

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I-don't-care!

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I don't care you don't care. Be silent, boy.

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It's even more geographically inaccurate. In the scene where Mel and his family are riding in a carriage towards the top of the screen, in Charleston, SC, you see ships moored on the left side of the screen. The street he is travelling on has the Cooper river on the right side of the screen. The ships are sitting on the middle of land.

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