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So, was Maggie's sister a lesbian?anyone noticed...?

posted 17 years ago by Dalazen_Junior
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People, I don't know if anybody else noticed, bit I got the feeling that Maggie's sister was a lesbian...I mean, there is this scene in which Tom walks into her place and sees her with this other latin girl on the couch, Lisa asks the girl to leave so she can have a private conversation with Tom, and girl leaves the place...There is no talk about her - Lisa - having a boyfriend and over all the way she interacts with Tom, reminds me of the interaction between two buddies or a brother and a sister.

[–] miku1385 17 years ago

that's what i was thinking as well.

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[–] bogwart-1 17 years ago

Who cares? What a juvenile question. Does it make a difference whether she was or was not a lesbian? Pathetic.

[–] Dalazen_Junior 17 years ago

pathetic is you. if you don't like the damn question, get the hell outta here. we don't need your opinion anyway man.

[–] newmatt1 17 years ago

Well obviously you do need opinions, you posted a question. By the way, who cares if she was or wasn't. It didn't alter the story.

[–] Dalazen_Junior 17 years ago

hey, newmattl, leave me alone, ok?are you the guy's lawyer or something?don't try to lecture me, ok, man?I was discussing the question, Maggie's sister DOES look like a lesbian, it doesn't matter, but I got the feeling she was lesbian and wanted to discuss.

[–] newmatt1 17 years ago

Oh, so she 'looks' like a lesbian. Explain your rationale.

[–] miku1385 17 years ago

why are people instantly soo f.. defensive when it comes to homosexuality?
there are at least about 9 topics concerning the main character's preference for orange juice! and you get all tight-up about this one???
maybe it's not important for you cause you're obviously not part of a minority group (at least not sexual orientation-wise)... but for people who are, it is a random fact that's quiet interesting. soo just.. you know, try being a little less
mentally restricted, next time. please.

[–] Dalazen_Junior 17 years ago

newmatt1, why can't we be friends?

So, again, regarding the topic of the board, I watched this movie a long time ago, and I always felt something different regarding Lisa, she didn't have a boyfriend, her interaction with Kevin, seemed like two buddies, and there is this scene when Kevin interrupts something, Lisa is with a girl on the coach, he comes in, its a latin girl, you guys remember?what do you think of that?

[–] MasterOfAll 17 years ago

I agree, people get so defensive. If the op said "OMG WAS SHE A LESBIAN?! HOW WRONG!!" id understand, but all he asked was if she or was not a lesbian, why the hell are you guys getting so defencive?

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[–] nekogod 17 years ago

no one was defensive they merely stated it was a pointless question. and probably quite accurately used the word juvenile. seems like a kid trying to cover a omgz lezbianz, how hawt!!! remark with a sensible question.

[–] timothyjamesmurphy 17 years ago

Of course she was a lesbian. They didn't show her making out with the chick, but it's not like that scene was subtle.

And why is it a juvenile question to ask? It's a simple question.

[–] thecoolguykikkoman 17 years ago

Really I think the whole debate over the question has gone farther than the debate over the topic itself. In short, it was an unnecessary question, but hey, people got free time, and inquisitive minds ARE necessary to expansion. And even if that person wasn't getting defensive, still, nobody asked ofr negativity. A reply, yes, but that wasn't an answer, it was destructive criticism.

[–] oui381 17 years ago

Listen up people. She wasn't a lesbian. Early on in the movie, she and her sister are at a party. Lisa was eyeing the guys and saying, "No...he is too nerdy", No..he is too clean cut, yada, yada, yada. If she was a lesbian, she wouldn't be looking at the guys and making comments about them as potential dates. The girl in her apartment was a client. She did tarot readings, remember? Rewind the DVD and watch it again. End of story.

[–] angelexposed 16 years ago

I believe that Lisa is supposed to be very free spirited and not too tied down to one sex or the other. The candle light and being all dressed up with the woman in her apartment seems to almost suggest she might have been romantically attached to this woman, but for all we know, they may have been getting high before hitting a night on the town (since they were all dressed up and all).

Lisa makes a comment about male genitalia at the beginning of the movie also, ("I wouldn't look a gift ***** in the mouth"?).

If anything she would be bi-sexual but not a lesbian after that comment. But it doesn't matter much about Lisa, we're meant to be focusing on Tom! LOL.

[–] mcgill_j 8 years ago

well.. wouldn't it have been WEIRDER if Kevin Bacon was hitting on her? that was his SISTER.. So them being friendly or buddies would make more sense. Having said that, I never gave it one thought or the other. She was just his loopy hippy-like sister.. theone who believed in ghosts, hypnosis, etc.

[–] Zuider_Zee 10 years ago

Does it make a difference whether she was or was not a lesbian? Pathetic.

Since the filmmakers presented her in that fashion, certainly the viewers are entitled to discuss that aspect of the film.

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[–] prettybutterflies 17 years ago

Maybe she was bi because remember at the party they went to she was checking out guys? I think she is very eccentric may be very open-minded to enjoying both sexes.

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[–] ach36682 17 years ago

yeah and then the women get a crew of other naked girls together for a mad get-it-on scene.

It was either a deleted scene or a vision I was having. One of those.

[–] prettybutterflies 17 years ago

Umm, I'm thinking it that crew of naked girls may have been a vision you had, it would have brought an interesting spin on the movie though!

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[–] dubexplorations 17 years ago

yes.. she did seem a bit affected by the unfortunate lezbo gene..

[–] reinasmommy01-1 17 years ago

I didn't catch it when I first saw this some years ago, but just recently I viewed it and I think Maggie makes a comment about it when they are walking to the concert or bar they were going to. I also thought Lisa was Tom's sister not Maggie...right.

I also wanted to add that what Dalazen asked wasn't bad he just wanted to know. He didn't say it in a mean way.

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[–] oneiros-9 17 years ago

yeah, seems to me like a legit question... and nothing but juvenile kneeJERK reactions against it... i gots nothing to add that hasn't already been said really... i just viewed the flick on freetoairtv here and quite enjoyed it. Koepp is quite the proficient screenwriter IMHO and always has subtle depths to his secondry characters... to my mind this 'lesbian' angle just showed how open minded the sister was in some respects, but not so in others...

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[–] Frosted-Flame 17 years ago

I don't know, she's either a dyke or a wiccan, could be both. Sorry for all the defensiveness of everyone. It's a legit question, dosent' matter why it's asked, as it is just a question about character trait

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[–] alexandrajade 17 years ago

According to the director's commentary on the DVD, this is the idea he was going for (the woman playing Lisa's girlfriend was actually the director's wife!)

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[–] Hannah_Phoenix 17 years ago

"In an earlier version of David Koepp's script Maggie Witzky's hypnotist sister Lisa was actually a brother called Philip" So says the trivia.

I'm kinda thinking, maybe the scene where Lisa is with that girl was the same in the earlier version therfore a hetrosexual relationship, but once the character was changed the scene wasnt hinting on a bisexual or homosexual relationship.

The only person to really ask the question to is the writer, but while watching the film last night she didnt really come across to me as bi or gay. Infact i was too into Tom's storyline. However the non english speaking girl did throw me a little.

[–] donbren-1 17 years ago

Apparently the editors didn't think much about it either since "lesbians" is not in the Plot Keywords list (and just about everything else is). Assume that the answer isn't any more necessary than the question...

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[–] mfpolako22 16 years ago

Her Latina Friend, she is Argentinian. I'm from Argentina and that's totally an Argentinian way of talking!

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