That's what I don't get..
How comes Lola gets two more attempts at getting the money for her boyfriend?
"The things you own end up owning you."
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That's basically what I got out of it, simply a narrative decision on the storytellers part.
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ahhh i dont think she exactly gets the *~*option*~*
i thought it was meant to more showcase the difference one thing can make. like different scenarios rather than a true ending. chance versus choice, i think someone said.
"Excellent question. It went unanswered when their should have been a definitive answer. Really brought the movie way down for me."
Explaining it would have destroyed the movie, what did you want to happen "oh lola thank god you found that time machine!"
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I don't think she did get three attempts; the same story was shown three times with alternate choices leading to different endings.
I'm only going to say this once: stay out of Camberwick Green - Sam Tyler
Don't tell me people really do not grasp that concept? It's fairly obvious.
shareHow do you explain the fact that she learns things from one incarnation to the next?
For example, that she needs to take of the safety, or she needs to jump over the dood's leg?
(SPOILER ALERT)
Just watched this and think that it's excellent. I don't think that she learns things from one incarnation to the next, as somebody has said previously, it's 3 simultaneous possibilities. If she was learning things then she would surely know that jumping over the dog for example wouldn't actually get her to the bank quicker - but slower because it means as opposed to jumping over the car, she gets hit by it.
Very confusing I admit, best thing to do is to just appreciate the film without thinking about it too much I reckon. There are probably some clues in the 2 sequences where Lola is in bed with Manni in between the 3 "runs" but I've only watched it once and didn't pick up on anything.
Hope that this helps.
parallel universes, yo
shareShe doesn't learn anything. She just makes different choices, which then compound into a different outcome.
shareI think the general point of the film is not that she gets 3 attempts, but the story is 3 possible scenarios with the underlying message of parallel universes. Going back to the original narration in the film "How do we know what we believe to know", Lola's knowledge of other universes is one of those unexplained phenomena that happens in real life. Sometimes we just "know" something.
shareConcept is grasped.
Butterfly effect thing going on.
It's the physically coming 'back to life' that alot of people find confusing.
it's easy and complicated in one: she gets other attempts because she declares the outcomes of the first two tries for FORBIDDEN out of concept of own WILL POWER!
Hard to understand?
There is a poem by the german humorist Christian Morgenstern,
("Die unmögliche Tatsache", one of the several Palmström poems)
where he makes fun of the forbiddance-o-phile germans
and he writes a line that goes like this:
...
Und er kommt zu dem Ergebnis:
"Nur ein Traum war das Erlebnis. Weil",
so schließt er messerscharf,
"nicht sein KANN, was nicht sein DARF."
Translation in rhymes:
And he comes to the conclusion:
His mishap was an illusion,
for, he reasons pointedly,
that which MUST not, CAN not be!
I hope this helps a bit!
Another reason, why there are 3 possibilities to save her boyfriend,
is the hommage to Fritz Langs "Der müde Tod" / "Destiny"
http://german.imdb.com/title/tt0012494/
where a bride gets 3 chances to save her husband by the grim reaper himself!
I don't see it as 3 attempts, but rather as three possibilities.
In quantum mechanics we can't see cause and effect but rather probabilities. That's why many physicists believe that all those states the particles DON'T happen to take on are in fact occuring in an alternate universe.
I've always seen this movie as one story that branches off into three different universes. So all three stories are actually happening, only in different places (sort of).
That is probably the main reason I did not like the movie. The best thing I can say about this movie is that if it was never made, they wouldn't have made the classic 'Early Edition' episode called 'Run Gary Run', which obviously is a rip-off this movie. Great episode! And miles beyond this movie.
shareI love this film - I would probably give it 8/10 - but I don't think they were "attempts" or "options" at all. It was like three different possibilities that all hinge on small changes: like Lola falling over the man's ankle, tripping over the dog or jumping over the dog. That, in my opinion, was the main theme of the film: how even the smallest change can alter everything. One of the main "flaws" people have pointed out is that the scene with Manny and Lola, talking about what Lola would do if Manny died - in the second reality - and in the first, whether Manny truly loves Lola. As was mentioned in another post, they could easily be parallel universes, i.e. in the first parallel, Lola is doubting her relationship with Manny; in the second, it is the other way around. In the third (there has been some debate about this on other threads) something could have happened to the security guard in order to make them realise that the security guard was Lola's real father. There is no concrete evidence towards this, but in the last reality, after not showing any particular fatherly inclination towards Lola in the true previous realities, he says "You've come at last" or words to that effect. It can be whatever you want it to be. If you want to believe that they were completely different universes, fine, if you want to believe they all happened in the same "world" but were slightly altered due to choice/chance/coincidence, then fine.
"Innocence Has A Power Evil Cannot Imagine"
Pan's Labryinth
That's what I don't get..
How comes Lola gets two more attempts at getting the money for her boyfriend?
Yes how? Also i want to know what gives her the right to come back from the dead, and stop manni from dying?
Wow i feel retarded, i feel like i gotta wash my hand everytime after being sarcastic.
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