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THIS is Why you can't find or rent it on DVD


Just so everybody who gets online, whether it be this site, or any dvd rental or seller site and can't find Thursday and is like, What the F&@!, here's the business side.

OK, Thursday was produced and distributed by Polygram entertainment. Literally, a few months after Thursday was released on DVD for sale, Polygram went bankrupt. Out of Business -- whatever you'd like to call a production studio that doesn't make enough films that do well at the box office.
I'm absolutely not being critical, Polygram did some edgy stuff and I LOVE Thursday also.

Thusly, due to the timing of Polygram ceasing to exist , DVD production was stopped. Rumor is there are only about 1,000 copies available in the original English/USA released version.

And, yes, I do have one. There is no extra material on it. I found it by complete luck and persistence. A seller about 4 years ago had a copy on ebay. Offered him 40 bucks, got him to close his auction, and since the current bid on it was about 20 dollars at the time, he immediately obliged. I literally know people who have offered/payed upwards of 100 dollars for a copy of this hard to find dvd.

Anyway, now you know. Happy viewing.


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hey bro, how do you find out these kinds of things? i want to learn about the biz side of it all. can you point me to some links.... what do you do, peruse news sites? variety?

thanks

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I've done a little researching of my own and everything he said is true but he missed one important detail.

Because no one owns the rights to this movie it is 100% legal to download no matter where you find it on the internet.

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This DVD is or at least was Available through Amazon.de (Amazon Germany), with an English soundtrack and optional subtitles. I bought it, and thankfully own one of the best films of the 20th Century.

At time of writing, It's still available http://www.amazon.de/Thursday-Ein-mörderischer-Thomas-Jane/dp/B0006N20M2

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"Because no one owns the rights to this movie it is 100% legal to download "


unfortunately that doesn't really seem to agree with the way bankruptcy law works.

say you have a car. you go bankrupt. the people who loaned you money are waiting for you to pay back the money, but you cant.

those people are your creditors. the bank is probably included in this group. they take legal ownership of your car. and then they try to take physical posession (aka, reposession, aka 'repo men').

because you go into bankruptcy doesnt mean that nobody owns your property, it means the people you borrowed money from to buy your property, own your property.



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so whoever the creditors of the original owners are, probably wound up owning the film's copyright.

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TO ANYONE LOOKING TO ERASE THIS POST, I AM NOT ENCOURAGING ILLEGAL PIRACY. I AM SIMPLY GIVING MY P.O.V. AS A LAW STUDENT WHO HAS SPENT MUCH FREE TIME EXAMINING THIS ISSUE.

Bankruptcy law is TOTALLY different from copyright laws. As far as copyright laws go, what would apply here is the section of American copyright law known as "The Berne Act", which clearly states: films unreleased in the United States, including original versions of films altered and/or edited for release in the United States, are not protected by American copyright; thus, they are considered public domain.

A great example would be "hi-def copies of the original 3 Star Wars movies [aka "The 3"], as they were originally released. As Star Wars fans (and much of the "movie geek" community) knows, the only DVD/Blu-Ray releases of The 3 are ones that have been significantly altered from their original versions.

So what are you going to do? Well, purists/Star Wars fanatics (kidding) that want The 3 a)in Hi-Def; b)unchanged from The 3's original releases; and c)on DVD or Blu-Ray only have one option: get copies of The 3 from a source that has (or is passing down) The 3 on laserdisc. It fits the criteria of "The Berne Act" perfectly - there are no current Hi-Def & "untampered with" versions of The 3 for sale, nor are their any in print. Disney now owns Star Wars (sorry, don't know what else to call it - Lucasfilm maybe?), so if they were so inclined, Disney could put out Hi-Def, unchanged versions of The 3. If this were to happen, THEN (and ONLY THEN) would it be illegal to sell or copy the aforementioned laserdiscs.

Of course, that's only American law. Canada went to that convention that is always referred to at the beginning of each home video that has the red background, and says how Interpol expressed concern (in 1976) about copying films or their soundtracks. However, when the Canadian delegates got home, they somehow forgot to put anything from the "convention" into the Canadian Criminal Code. Oops, we rule.

"I am insane... and you are my insanity" - James Cole, 12 Monkeys

-AK

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I only skimmed that but that sounds like a load of bullshit to me.
Just because the owner of a work isnt selling copies doesent mean everyone can pirate it.

Thats torrent leacher whiny justification, similar to:
I pirate it because dvds make me watch trailers" and shit

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Did you ever pass the bar, asshole?

“Illegal piracy” As opposed to “legal piracy”? Your verbal skills are, to (pretend to) be kind, are fucking weak.

“I am not robbing you, even though I have a handgun to your temple.”

Oh, you would have made a GREAT attorney😂😂😂

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"because you go into bankruptcy doesnt mean that nobody owns your property, it means the people you borrowed money from to buy your property, own your property."

When i buy a car i pay cash for it.
Its conceivable , albeit unlikely, that that studio had enough assets , or so little debt that stuff was left over

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One can find this movie on the internet. Very good quality too.............Just download the darn thing for free.

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Especially know that the 1080p bluray is available online now too...

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I just found 8 new copies on Amazon.co.uk for upwards of £9 - http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B0006N20M2/ref=sr_1_1_olp?s=d vd&ie=UTF8&qid=1311727509&sr=1-1&condition=new

And on Amazon.com there are 5 new copies starting at $21 - http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B001GERO6M/ref=sr_1_2_olp?s=mov ies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1311727544&sr=1-2&condition=new

So they are not that rare at all.

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Jesus, that's really super... How'd a nitwit like you get so tasteful?

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You guys can watch it here for free, no download necessary:


http://www.1channel.ch/watch-12931-Thursday


Along with practically any other movie/television show.


-maximumxxx

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OK, Thursday was produced and distributed by Polygram entertainment. Literally, a few months after Thursday was released on DVD for sale, Polygram went bankrupt. Out of Business -- whatever you'd like to call a production studio that doesn't make enough films that do well at the box office.
I'm absolutely not being critical, Polygram did some edgy stuff and I LOVE Thursday also.

Thusly, due to the timing of Polygram ceasing to exist , DVD production was stopped. Rumor is there are only about 1,000 copies available in the original English/USA released version.

Sorry, but I think this is a load of BS. Polygram folded in 1999, and the Thursday dvd was put out in 2002 by USA Home Entertainment (a division of Universal Studios). Thus, Universal owns the film, and I can guarantee that more than 1000 copies were produced. I saw the same quote about this being a limited production dvd on Wikipedia, and if you notice--it says 'Citation needed'. That's because it's just something that someone made up.

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Well, i looked in every american shops and rental shops (not really sure how to say this one in english) that met my path and never did i see it anywhere...

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It's still available on DVD, you got yourself ripped off for $40.00
Sucks to be you.

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Thankfully, though surely to soon be taken down, the movie in it's entirety can be found on your friendly neighbourhood youtube. Get it before it's gone!

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