The REAL problem with the abortion ' theme'

As the good Dr Larch would say, the OP is sick of ignorance and fanatism.

I am among those who thinks that is better a safe and legal abortion than a dangerous and illegal one where not only the baby but also the mother could die.
We cannot force our morality on others. We cannot decide what a woman should do when she is pregant. They have the right to choose.

Random thought I wanted to throw out there.

You grant the Rose Rose situation an exception because of the chances of the baby having developmental problems, but c'mon...it would have been born into a family of apple pickers. Ever read or see Of Mice and Men? That could have been an ideal situation from a work ethic standpoint.

Come on, this film is hardly making a moral stand. It's a crappy hollywood adaptation of a book which is quite long, so the film has to contract every issue into a few formulaic sentences. I certainly hope no-one is going to base their opinions on this movie

Frankly, I'm not pro or against abortion, for me if you need to get one then do it but if you can financially handle and raise a child then you need to!

I agree that the case was extreme, but so are many circumstances where abortion is wanted. At least back in that time.

Not to mention, it had to be extreme to get the point across. How else would Homer change his firm, anti-abortion opinion?

"Contempt loves the silence, it thrives in the dark" -Merchant

First, the OP was being extremely combative and anyone asking why are people insulting him should look no further than the statement "That's why this film is a liberal piece of sh^t, not because the abortion of the to be retarded child." That kind of hostility doesn't serve either side.

As to whether the movie is "liberal" or "conservative", one could argue that it's both. But as has been pointed out already, it is not "pro abortion" but rather pro choice. And yes, there is a big difference.

Staying on topic with the movie, Dr. Larch most certainly did have a basis for what he was doing, whatever any individual viewer might think of his choices. He'd seen first hand two things that are very relevant to the issue:

(1) Women who sought abortions from unskilled practitioners and died or were horribly injured in the process. He believed that they had a right to decide for themselves whether or not to have the baby and that if they chose not to, that choice should not carry with it a death sentence.

(2) He also ran an orphanage. He knew the realities of the lives of unwanted children. And a certain balance was shown that some were indeed adopted, presumably into a good life, while others never were and lived out their lives in an institution. That is still a real occurance today.

Adoption is a wonderful thing and a beautiful opportunity for some women who can't (for whatever reason) or don't want to keep a baby and people who want a child but can't for some reason have one to help each other in an amazing way. But the notion that adoption is some sort of magic fix and that every unwanted pregnancy can end in adoption is naive at best. Does the demand (pardon what seems like a cold word) match the supply (again apologies)? Are there people lining up for all those children? For the minority children as well as the blond white ones? For the ones with medical issues as well as the perfectly healthy ones? And are people also lined up to care for the women as they endure the pregnancy? {And please, before anyone tells me that it's a beautiful experience and not something to be endured, let me say that yes it is something to be endured. And can also be a beautiful thing but not always. I was lucky. My pregnancy was mild and enjoyable on almost every level. My sister's was difficult, scary and painful and she fought for my nephew at every turn. He's perfect and healthy, I'm happy to say.} But projecting the idea that all births result in a better fate for these unborn children also ignores some of the painful realities of the world we live in. Those born to drug addicts can have multiple defects that plague them their whole lives and inhibit their development. Those born to people incapable of caring for them sometimes endure abuse, neglect and even death. Those born to reluctant parents sometimes endure years of being told they weren't wanted, etc. And sometimes the parents genuinely try their best and still can't give the child the care he/she deserves. Where are the pro life activists then? Some are right there, offering assistance, compassion and care. Far too many are sitting at home complaining about supporting other people's kids with their taxes, making deragatory remarks about "welfare babies," and passing judgment on people who "have no business having children." If we are going to claim to value life while forcing decisions on other people, we should also have to take part of the responsibility for those choices. Otherwise we're just hypocrites.


To try to paint the abortion issue as a simple, black and white situation with easy solutions and no room for individual circumstances is to deny the realities of many, many people's lives and the reasons they make that choice.

And labeling this movie simply "a liberal piece of sh^t" shows that the OP either didn't actually watch or comprehend it or he had an agenda to push regardless of what the movie depicted.