Did I miss something?


I watched this yesterday after it sat on my DVR for a while. Now I almost wish somebody had erased it before I wasted an hour or so of my life. Only an hour because I fast forwarded through a lot of it. Just an all around horrible movie with no redeeming qualities. A majority of the movie centered around multiple people yelling at the same time. It's annoying in real life when people continue to get louder and louder as they try to talk over each other, why make a movie out of it? Maybe one or two scenes, but wow. God awful movie.

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exactly

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Yeah, you missed alot!....you fast forwarded through it! How can you comment on a movie if you've watched bits and pieces of it???!!!

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The dark comedy dialog between the characters is what made the movie great.

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Now, i haven't seen this movie in close to ten years but i from what i remember there really wasn't much comedy. Which pretty much just made it sick.

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Yeah, if this was dark comedy then "Natural Born Killers" was dark comedy.
This movie was disturbing, and not the least bit funny.




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I thought Natural Born Killers was hilarious.

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but natural born killers IS a dark comedy...and deep down a touching romance

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i do think theres comedy in natural born killers but we are supposed to take it serious at the same time as for a touching love story no way in hell any one romance or not who dose that stuff deserves a bullet ot he brain as for that film is a good movie not great it suffers from tone problems it trys to be serious an at the same time it wants to be a live action cartoon the tones dont mesh very well still its better then this movie

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Natural Born Killers IS a dark comedy. And far funnier and less depressing than Very Bad Thngs.

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Nothing great about this movie. Nothing.

Look up the word great, please.



"In our wings that bark, flashing teeth of brass, standing tall in the dark" - David Bowie

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this is one of the worst movies of all time, and attempts to characterize it as a dark comedy is well laughable

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Calling it a dark comedy is the polite way of saying that it is a piece of crap.

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I don't see how you can find this move so awful??? It's funny, it's shocking, there's a complete lack of morality (adds to the comic), it's gory, it induces the feelings of the characers into you as it just gets worse and worse...there is alot of shouting, but if you listen they are making sense and that's where a lot of the ocmedy is....there was alot of shouting in saving private ryan but i bet you still like that (i realise it's completely out of context with Very Bad Things and is indeed a brutal and horrific realistic war film) but you get what I mean.....

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I can't say I disagree with you. I wouldn't watch it again, but it was everything you said it was. I only found it funny after we start seeing
Laura's true colors, but it did get there. Definitely shocking and gory, and more plausible than the alternative Offensive Vegas Bachelor Party "Comedy".

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you must have laughed your ass off at Schindler's List

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yea when I saw the movie I expevted it to be dark ut at least funny, granted there were a few funny parts but for the most part it was just dark, which means tat you would have to be completely messed up to find the movie funny. And the end was one of the worst I have seen.

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i agree this movie is messed up and not funny. I cant say its a horrible movie so to speak, but its definately not good. i found the ending to be really disturbing.

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The ending is supposed to disturb you

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Cameron screaming into the air?

I'd rather, a bus ran her down. That would have been a funny ending!

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Nah - the ending was great.

She got her just desserts.

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Also, with the whole Karma thing, the other 2 didn't die but got what they deserved for playing along in the whole thing, they get to live but with a few minor set-backs.

She wanted her damn picture perfect wedding and she got it but in the process a life oh so not as perfect.

Very Bad Things and Vulgar are probably the best dark comedies/karma-related movies to not be well recognized and although not light and happy and maybe a bit too dark for some tastes they still are pretty good.

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Liked the ending - a bud wudda been funnier tho - rather random....but funny :D

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naw, that was the ending to Scary Movie. We don't need more movies like Scary Movie... but less funny... like all those terrible sequels and spin offs.

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I agree with everone who's saying this movie isn't redeeming and is horrible. I expected it to be dark, sure. But it only had a few funny parts and even then they were bearly funny and you were very uneasy laughing at anything because the movie is so depraved and sick. You do have to be really messed up to actually enjoy this movie.

Exact same things go for movies like American Psycho and Clockwork Orange.

I know people wont like me saying that about a "classic" but it's true. There aren't enough redeeming points to make it a worthwhile movie. You have to have some sort of a great point or brilliant conclusion for a twisted movie to be great. And these films completely lack that. showing that bad things happen to people who do screwed up crap isn't enough to warrant putting people through hours of tourture watching it.

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First of all: Very Bad Things is not really to be compared to American Psycho and a Clockwork Orange. They aren't the same type of movies. All three had comedic moments, but they fall into two very different classes of film.

Very Bad Things is a plain and simple black comedy. I can understand not finding it funny, though I though it was fantastic. It has all the classic elements of black comedy. Topics that are normally treated with respect are treated with humor and absurdity. Obviously in this case the accidental murder of a hooker resulting in to the suspicion and following mass slaughter of almost everyone in the movie is the intended satire. Is also includes the two other main elements in a good black comedy. Irony and fatalism. Both of these aspects are demonstrated in a wide variety by the various characters. Ultimately even the climax of the movie is filled with an overwhelming sense of irony. There is some social commentary, but not a great deal. It was really intended to be mass murder and depravity treated with absurdity. I can't tell anyone what they find funny, however I personally found it terribly amusing. The fact that it did include all the core elements of a black comedy however, is undeniable. You may or may not have liked it, that's a personal preference, but if you didn't enjoy it. Black Comedy is depraved and sick and if you didn't find Very Bad Things funny, you probably don't like black comedy. If that's the case, you really shouldn't be commenting on it's merits.

American Psycho also falls into the category of black comedy, however it has a slightly different twist then Very Bad Things. Rather then simply go for the over the top insanity that Very Bad Things did, American Psycho offers a deeper commentary, in addition to being absurdly amusing at times. It deals with two huge issues in contemporary society. The first being the stress of modern man being drive to succeed and 'be the best'. The second is the insulation of high society. Patrick Batemen is a typical narcissistic corporate man. His own narcissism and the drive to be 'the best' cause him to crack and develop this psychosis that drives him to do the things he does. The ending of the movie is largely irrelevant in the question of did or did he not do it, which seems to be the primary debate of the movie. Some say that the endings between the book and movie are different. Again, this is irrelevant. What IS important about the ending is what it shows. At it's conclusion, Bateman attempts to turn himself in. He confesses everything to his lawyer and tries desperate to find resolution for everything that he did. But he can't. Even when he practically throws himself at the authorities they deny that his murder of all these people is possible. Over the top? Of course. But I believe the director was trying to show the insulation of the people at the top. How they cannot possible be harmed by their behavior or actions even when they try desperately to be harmed in such a way. In addition to these two things, the director was obviously making a negative commentary as to the hollow and shallow life that seemed so common in the overtly materialistic 1980's (and indeed even now). To say it lacks merit, I believe is a shallow interpretation.

As for A Clockwork Orange, to even lump it in with Very Bad Things and American Psycho is false. It is hardly a black comedy in the strictest sense. It's intention was never to make anyone laugh, but rather to shock people. In this case, there is also a deeper social commentary to be found. The entire first section of the book and movie are to set the stage. They create a character so reprehensible and undesirable that at first the reader/watcher is to be filled with such a sense of loathing for him that no matter what punishment he receives after his arrest, they will not care. The parts of him in prison and then undergoing the Ludovico treatment emphasis this, but also being to allude that all is not as it should be. Finally, when Alex is sent out into the world and suffers untold horrors at the hands of everyone around him, the reader/watcher is intended to experience a sort of turn about of feelings. His own treatment becomes so reprehensible that the viewer is supposed to find them self feeling sorry for Alex, rather then loathing him. The social significance behind this is of course intended to show that no matter how horrible people are and no matter what vile things they enact on each other they cannot be 'made better'. No one has the right to fundamentally change another persons personality. As well, not only do they not have the right to do so, it will ultimately end it ruin. It's irrelevant to the discussion of the movie, but as well there is a further lesson to be learned by Alex in the UK version of A Clockwork Orange when even after the Ludovico treatment is reversed he realizes the error of his ways and cleans up his life. As I said, this is not present in the movie and thus irrelevant, however the underlying idea that people cannot be fundamentally altered stands firm in the film. It is also worth noting that the author of the original book (which is obviously the source material for the movie and thus relevant in terms of inspiration) is said to have written the book in part because his own wife was raped and assaulted. Rather then writing a novel about the punishment of the character from the perspective of the angry husband, as would be normal, Anthony Burgess instead choose to make the attacker the sympathetic protagonist instead in a remarkable “act of charity”. This fact also gives both the book and the movie even more credit in my eyes as an ultimate display of biblical, ‘turn the other cheek’. This also leads to the final theme of the movie as described by Burgess: the idea of goodness. Though Alex acts in a 'good' manor, he is not (until possibly at the very climax of the UK Novel) actually good. He is simply forced to act good by an artificial and outside influence. This of course leads back to the primary theme I pointed out of abusing one's liberty. Someone is good because they desire to be good, it cannot be forced upon them and people cannot be 'made better'. In my knowledge, all of these themes make not A Clockwork Orange not only an excellent film from an acting, visual and auditory aspect, but also one of immense social significance.

Simply saying that all of these movies are "showing that bad things happen to people who do screwed up crap" is a shallow interpretation of three (in my humble opinion) good films. One of them a simple comedy of the absurd. The other two, however, carrying deep social significance and a meaningful commentary on the world and the people in it.

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Ain't nobody got time for that

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You do have to be really messed up to actually enjoy this movie.


Anybody else ever get tired of hearing how if you enjoy something the poster doesn't there's something morally and/or intellectually wrong with you? Maybe there's something morally and/or intellectually wrong with people who can't understand how anyone could have a different opinion than theirs and still be a decent, intelligent, thoughtful human being.

As a fan of horror and dark stuff like Very Bad Things, I hear that quite a bit. I got a kick out of Very Bad Things because, unlike TwentyThree42, I'm not uneasy laughing at stuff that's depraved and sick. That's because I like things that are irreverent and iconoclastic and ironic. I agree that this movie doesn't have a lot of laugh out loud funny parts, it's the overall bad-to-worse wrongness that amuses me. I especially think anyone who's ever had to suffer through a friend turning into a bridezilla will appreciate Very Bad Things. I've dealt with that twice, once when I was the maid of honor, and I can tell you Cameron Diaz's character wasn't that much of an exaggeration. This movie's just insanely ridiculous from start to finish. Yes, I did get a kick out of it, and you know what? I'm not "really messed up." I'm married to a good guy, I love puppies and kitties, I say please and thank you, I wash my hands after I use the toilet, and I've never killed anyone nor wanted to (for long). I'm pretty damn normal, actually. Maybe the real difference between me and the "you have to be sick to like stuff like this" crowd is that I can tell the difference between a made up story on a movie screen and reality. Maybe the reason they think you have to be sick is because they don't really understand that it's all just pretend, and that the people on the screen aren't really being hurt.

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if you have to be "Messed Up" to enjoy this movie, so be it i'm messed up.

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I actually really enjoyed this movie when I was around 16, there are certain aspects of dark comedy I find funny (like this) and other movies that people love that I feel the way you do ben. Plus I love Jeremy Piven. The whole movie is just kind of ironic. I can understand why someone wouldn't like it though.

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I also understand why. This kind of dark humor is not for everybody. I found the movie amusing. The yelling and loud overlapping dialogue was annoying to me, until I thought that that was probably the intent. OK, pretend you're one of the semi normal guys (like the two who survided), how would you react? I'm beginning to realize that I like this kind of movies.

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Some of you people need to definitely remove the sticks from your asses and loosen the hell up. This movie is one of the hilarious things I've ever seen and it is mostly because it is one of the darkest films I've ever seen. If you can't laugh at this movie, then the reason is alot like some of the ones given by Boyd in the movie.....its because of the conditioning that's been beat into you're head since day one. The fact that you're preventing yourselves from enjoying the movie because you find it wrong morally is ridicoulous. Its a movie.....no one REALLY died. And not only is it just a movie, in no way is violence glorified, even if it is presented in a humorous way.

Seriously....get over yourselves...

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What people need to understand is dark comedy is not for everyone. Also dark comedies all have different flavors. most of the ones that I've watched were just plain crap. But this one I thought was great the most f'd up ending ever.

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I just watched this movie for the first time this past weekend and I wish I wasn't under the influence of mary jane at the time. People I was with told me that it was funny and it was a dark humor kind of movie but I just wasn't prepared for the movie and I didn't like it at all. I mean the security guard begging to live?! Sick. I'm not saying people who thought it was funny are sickos, I just didn't enjoy it at all but I dislike Cameron Diaz so the ending wasn't bad.

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Well yeah, I did enjoy this movie (didn't think it was great, just OK) , but I definitely agree that this is the type of movie you DO NOT WANT to watch while stoned on mary jane... :)

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yup you missed everything in the movie. This movie is one of my favourites and makes me laugh a lot. From reading peoples comments on the movie, I'm very happy to realise that i have a different sense of humour.

I love the way all the characters freak out at different stages of the movie and I think it qualifies as a dark comedy because i think all dark comedies just make you laugh at someone's suffering.

I really like movies where people are not defined as good and evil. Pretty people normally being good. Everyone in this movie is 'Mad' and that is what makes it great.

I always recoment it to all my friends and strangely enough they all like it.

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People that didn't like it went into it expecting too much. I loved it cause it showed the REAL side of people. The dark, paranoid side that is truely funny.

After the 5 '"regular" guys from suburbia "accidentally" killed a hooker while out partying in Vegas then bury her AND a security guards bodies out in the desert.......it is hysterical how they all deal with the anxiety in keeping it all a secret. I found that to be the most realisitic of all.

Christian Slater's character ends up being a serial killer. I highly recommend renting this movie. DON'T rent it if you expect Shakespeare. If you and the guys like sick, dark, very funny shiit, get a case of beer and rent this DVD.

I like Cameron Diaz as the douchebag, self-centered *beep* *beep* and ask yourself while you are watching it..............what would YOU do if you were in their situation????????

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Have to agree with you 100%.

"It's annoying in real life when people continue to get louder and louder as they try to talk over each other, why make a movie out of it?" SO TRUE!!!!

Yelling, they were always yelling. I think I actually was shell shocked by this flick.

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you people complaining about this movie.. wow... dark comedies are apparently not for you.. stick to d!ck and fart joke movies.

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I think that to be fair yes I agree that this movie is too much for some people. you are dealing with murdering two people and the consequences of their actions. Hell Everyone in the movie lost their minds at some point.

But Its too much to see characters lose their minds and die horrible deaths.. Plus its too much to know that the remaining characters that we like have to suffer for the rest of their lives for what had happened at the Bachelor party. Plus they are to be tortured by those TWO BRATTY KIDS as well...

I dont find this funny and I cant imagine why other people DO find this funny.

True DIAZ gets her desserts for DOMINATING her husband and caring more about a WEDDING than doing whats right.. but in the movie I only laughed when she told her HUBBY about how she was waiting X years to go down that aisle.. and when she beat up SLATER cuz its her day..

OTher n that I HATED the ending :(

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You have no point - you fast-forwarded the movie - don't post to say a movie is bad unless you have seen it

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