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Trump ascendancy proves the movie right: voters really are THAT stupid

posted 8 years ago by al666940-3
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I'm not a Hillary nut (I wanted Bernie in fact).

But you can't really look at the movie today and dismiss it as condescending trash.

I mean, people just elected the Celebrity Apprentice dude!!!

[–] stevekaczynski 8 years ago

I am not an American so I can't say this for certain, but I had the impression the "serious" media in the USA tended to be pro-Clinton. I don't know if Trump winning is proof of the success of media manipulation or its failure.

"Chicken soup - with a *beep* straw."

[–] TheMachinistSleeps 8 years ago

I am not an American so I can't say this for certain, but I had the impression the "serious" media in the USA tended to be pro-Clinton. I don't know if Trump winning is proof of the success of media manipulation or its failure.

You are right. The person who started this thread has not been paying attention. 2016 was a total failure of mainstream media - they were on the losing side of Brexit and Trump.

The media tried everything to make sure Trump would not get elected. They ran hit pieces on Trump non-stop, over multiple days covering the same tired old topic, while they completely covered up or brushed away any new negative stories about Hillary.

- Wikileaks? Don't read that! That's illegal! Let the media read those emails for you, and we'll tell you what we want you to know! (Source: CNN)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DcATG9Qy_A

- New York Times explains why they are incapable of honest and fair journalism when covering Trump. The New York Times officially endorsed Hillary Clinton in the months leading up to it, and said she had over 98% chance of winning, on the day before the election. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/08/business/balance-fairness-and-a-proudly-provocative-presidential-candidate.html

- Some examples of how a headline can attempt to make a story more favorable for one side or another (in relation to Hillary falling unconscious while being held up by a group of security):

"Clinton falls ill during 9/11 memorial service in New York" - Washington Post: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/09/11/clinton-falls-ill-during-911-memorial-service-in-new-york/

"Hillary Clinton Leaves 9/11 Memorial Early After Feeling 'Overheated'" - NBC: http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/hillary-clinton-falls-ill-9-11-memorial-n-y-n646376

CNN called it an "early event exit" in order to remove any big bold mention of Hillary collapsing and getting thrown head first in to a van: http://edition.cnn.com/2016/09/11/politics/hillary-clinton-health/index.html

That's enough for now. Everyone who has been watching this year already knows about all of this.

[–] baran_erik 8 years ago

Mmmmm, they re-elected Bush II, didn't they?

Life is pain. Anyone who says differently is selling something.

[–] HarlemEagle42 (18070) 6 years ago

It’s partially voters’ fault but they’re simply the product of a corrupted political culture abetted by oligarchs, wingnuts, and warhawks.

[–] snepts (11123) 6 years ago

This is why I keep wishing Oprah would run. We've proven that celebrity is the #1 mover when it comes to electability, (sp?), and I'll bet a lot more people like Oprah more than DJT.

[–] HarveyManFredSin (4877) 2 years ago

"and I'll bet a lot more people like Oprah more than DJT."

You're underestimating the intrinsic racism of the American public...

[–] einstein (2587) 4 years ago

Yep pretty much the truth.

[–] liscarkat (18886) 3 years ago

To have wanted Bernie is a perfect example of stupidity. We got Trump instead, and a few years of energy independence (inexpensive gasoline), a good economy, and border control. Now we have Brandon and the worst mess of modern times--voters really are THAT stupid.

[–] Burk48917 (11429) 2 years ago

You can definitely tell when a young fool comments on a movie like this, because they don't understand the historical context. This is undoubtedly referring to the Clinton scandal and his bombing of the asprin factory during the whole Monica thing.

[–] HarveyManFredSin (4877) 2 years ago

Even as a staunch leftist, I'm inclined to agree (not that Clinton was remotely left-wing).

In fact, one of Trump's few saving graces is that he presented himself as a populist isolationist rather than a 'liberal interventionist' (in contrast to a lot of 'centrist' Democratic Presidents, including Clinton, 'Bay of Pigs' Kennedy, and "Hey, hey LBJ, how many kids did you kill today?").

Besides, although Trump is the second Hollywood/celebrity POTUS in history, after another Republican, Reagan, no Hollywood producer would *ever* help a modern-era Republican stage a phony-war, in order to make them look good. If anything, they'd be more likely to stage a fake-affair to make such a President *look bad*.