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Would a cut without the old lady storyline work better?


No real need to bring the modern world into a period piece.

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Including the modern stuff adds two important things to the film:

1) It gives us a really good look at Rose after the fact, and shows up what a monumental effect the experience had on her, how it inspired her to fearlessly chuck her old life and successfully begin a new one.

And 2) It gave James Cameron a chance to mess around with deep-sea exploration equipment. Apparently he's really into that stuff, and funds marine biology. Good for him, getting the film's backers to pay for his hobby!

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True but sometimes I don't want that story and just want the period piece stuff.

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But the profound change in Rose is a huge part of the story, if we aren't shown that she undergoes a permanent positive changes, then the story is just about another fling on a cruise ship. One would argue that meeting Old Rose adds more to the story than it detracts.

Or at least that's what Cameron thought, when getting the studio to pay for his hobby.

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Well said, Otter. You always have something smart to say

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It also teaches the younger people on the salvage ship about the true human cost of the sinking, when before, they were only after treasure from the wreck. It gave them a new sense of humility and respect for those who perished, and to reconsider their purpose there.

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You want a period-specific Titanic movie? Go watch A Night to Remember!

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I think your #2 particularly nails the answer..

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So I was watching a youtube documentary on the Mariana Trench, because I like nature documentaries, and guess who popped up at the bottom of the Mariana Trench? James Cameron, that's who!

Yup, he actually went there...

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I think it helped open the movie to a more general audience in that it helped the audience relate to it at the time, seeing an opening set in modern times. We also got that amazing transition from the old sunken ship to the vision in her mind as the "period" part starts.

Then there are those moments at the end as she dreams. That probably brought all the tears in the cinema and made people come back to see it again.

Plus we got to see Bill Paxton!

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As others have said, the modern prologue and epilogue allow the audience to see how Rose was changed by both her relationship with Jack and the experience of the sinking itself. She's become a feisty woman with a zest for life instead of a repressed, miserable trophy wife. The drabness of the modern setting also makes the 1912 main plot look all the more glamorous and fairy tale like in a weird way.

And then there's the three-handkerchief ending where Rose passes away and rejoins Jack in the afterlife. That last triumphant moment would be impossible without the modern scenes.

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At any rate, if you dislike it, you can always fast-forward those scenes or stop the movie before old Rose drops the jewel in the ocean.

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Ticketsplease, if you want an authentic retelling of the Titanic sinking, without any two time periods intermingling and certainly no fabricated love story between two fictional passengers, maybe you should check out:

A Night To Remember
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0051994/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0

It was made closer to the time of the sinking and I consider it almost a documentary, if not a movie, but it is still as compelling.

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A Night to Remember also had fictional drama added.

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"A Night to Remember also had fictional drama added."

Really? Like what? I mean, it's been a LOOOOONG time since I saw that movie, but Jack and Rose's "romance" is still fresh in my mind in Titanic (1997).

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There was a married couple who was having marital issues featured prominently.

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"There was a married couple who was having marital issues featured prominently."

Interesting. Cameron's inspiration for Jack and Rose, do you think?

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No, not really other than being a couple. They were nothing like Cal and Rose and IIRC, they had a small boy who was kind of caught up in the marital problems. There was also another side story with a Polish girl, but it's been a long time since I've seen the film.

Still a great film, but my opinion is that Cameron's Titanic is a better film overall.

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I think Titanic is better, too.

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I would be happy to see a cut with just Lewis Bodine edited out. He was the most annoying person in the movie.

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