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You do know the bugs didn't send the asteroid, right?


If you're not getting that part of the movie, you're really missing out on what makes this movie so awesome.

You'd feel cocky too if you were full of myself.

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Forget that. I know for certain that the Bugs did do it, they just use the twin star systems' intense gravity as a natural mass driver to launch their asteroids at Earth.

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I don't think the bugs sent the asteroid. Sometimes an asteroid is just an asteroid. I do believe the event was used as anti-arachnid propaganda. But maybe that's reading into this insanely entertaining action pic a bit too much.

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I knew right away the bugs didn't actually send it. It's amazing how allegorical this movie is to real life situations that occurred 4-5 years after this film was released.

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One thing that gives it was a false flag:

All of the false intelligence info. The idea at first that the spores were nothing more than harmless lights from the planet....until they wipe out a few ships. After the funeral, basically admitting many of the missions were basically suicide missions. Deception tactics all the way down the chain of command.

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It wasn't a false flag.

Mormon extremists violated the Arachnid quarantine zone, the Bugs responded with a retaliatory attack.

The whole point here is that the society of the Federation believes that use of force is the only solution, as was taught in the classroom scene. The idea Dizzy mentions of 'violence never solves anything' is dismissed by her teacher.

This is why the Federation mobilizes for war, and the intelligence mistakes were actual mistakes. A Sky Marshal resigns for the failed invasion, the Federation adpot new tactics, it seems they are prepared to do whatever is necessary to win a war, and not whatever could be done to restore peace.

That is the point here.

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^^^ Great analysis. Wanted to add a few items I noticed as well.

I find it pretty amusing that a lot of you all are having a pretty hard time believing the bugs could have aimed the asteroids to earth etc.

I found there to be some pretty specific moments in the movie that actually highlighted this reasoning quite well. First off in the beginning of the movie one was destroyed, highlighting earths new defenses and making it seem as if this was under the direction of an seeming intelligence. You can definitely argue the propaganda point, which is awesome... and I think a true testament to how wonderful this movie is. But like others have noted, it's more conjecture than what was presented to us in the movie.

Second, the asteroid that eventually hit earth after swiping past carmen and friends cleary came at speeds well beyond normal velocities. They were in a ship that could travel greater than light speed, yet barely had enough reaction time to divert and it still took out the communications (how convenient). Just, saying... you think it was just happenstance it was traveling that fast and in their direction? (more to come.. on this..)

Third, in what happened before the most epic ground battle ever... (maybe why some miss it? haha) Is the general was found in the freezer, quite loony. He kept going on about them taking their brains. Ie. "See they took our communications guy's brain" (something along that..) Implying, they are stealing our information literally by sucking it out of us. So.. we now know... Mormon extremists settled, basically invading the bugs territory. They killed them, stole their brains and would now know... (here's the key point..) exactly our intentions as a species, how we arrived to their location and what we were capable of. Armed, with that knowledge, brain bug orders fire butts to have at it...(somehow.. and you have to let go here a bit haha, somehow gave them exact firing orders to get an asteroid from their supply into near lightspeed trajectory for earth.. but hey they steal brains... cmon!)

So can we end it? haha the bugs were smart. I also feel it plays to the bigger narrative in the movie about a classic lesson learned through war... Never under estimate your enemy, their capabilities... and their ability to adapt and evolve. While us humans were the implied aggressors... the undertone that the bugs could be seen as victims seems apparent. The idea that they naturally shoot their spores into space, in order to populate reinforces the idea that we humans misidentified that as an act of aggression and therefore launching war against humanities latest foe.

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Thank you for that, it's a great film and I wish the sequals didn't suck so much.

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I've seen better arguments for the existence of god.

You'd feel cocky too if you were full of myself.

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Well, if the arachnids slaughtered all of the Mormons AND then eradicated Buenos Ares, Argentina what would the response have been?
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Well, if the arachnids slaughtered all of the Mormons AND then eradicated Buenos Ares, Argentina what would the response have been?

1. If Mexicans build an outpost on the US soil, what would the response of the US be?

2. Do you understand that the likelihood of an asteroid sent from the Arachnid system 2000 light years away from Earth, getting through the entire Solar system undetected, and through the Earth's atmosphere and crashing on a city, undetected, is close to zero, in a future where the humans are able to travel at light speed, and build outposts on an Arachnid system 2000 light years away from Earth?

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