Either, people in the '70s had no idea what they were doing, or the filmmakers were trying to make a point that these people were lousy at anything (including fucking).
I have never watched any clumsier, unsexy, unappealing, improper sex scenes in any film than any sex scene in this movie, and they all star here for the worse compilation ever!
1- I'm pretty sure that in the '70s they had more sex than we do nowadays, and they did it in a freer, more open, less scared-I'm-gonna-get-aids way.
2- I'm completely sure there was no confusion whatsoever about sex. If anything there was turmoil over politics or family values. NOT SEX
3- Because of this, I wanna hope that they KNEW what they were doing.
4- Like I said, if they were trying to make a point that they were just lousy people at everything including sex, they succeded. I'm not sure that was the original goal, and it also contradicts the assiduous sexual antics happening 24/7 in their lives. These were the saddest, awkwardest, insipidest sex scenes ever, and they are a bunch of them too:-(
5- I'm not complaining about my enjoyment of the sex scenes (although I have to say they are unwatchable). I'm complaining that they made them so unappealing and cringeworthy and, for what I stated above, that doesn't match the era nor the characters nor the story.
1. Not the parents.
They were too old, and missed out on the free love of the hippy culture.
This swinging sub culture of the early 70s is portrayed here accurately
2.No, there was lots of confusion about sex then.
Letting go of their devout Christian upbringing and letting loose was a real conundrum for suburbanites of that age.
3. ?
4. The movie was sad, and the ice storm was a violent metaphor for change.
5 interesting
The last thing I obsess about with this movie are the sex scenes. I found them funny.
But we all see different things in movies.
I grew up in the area portrayed in the ice storm in the 70s and it was pretty damn accurate look and feel of the times.
I highly recommend the novel by Rick Moody. We’re about the same age and he also grew up in the area
I could agree with many of your points, mostly because I understand that you talk from direct experience. But I have to say it seems that you are projecting your personal knowledge onto the movie a bit. I was not around then and I don't know the geographic area at all, I'm just judging it from what I see in the movie and my historical knowledge.
Also the novel has definitely given you a deeper perspective on what the author was trying to convey.
But I still need sheltering from the storm of horror sex scenes this movie blasts us with-no matter the filmmaker's intentions.
It has been a while but that's the only one I remember too..
The adults and their key party..well, that wasn't suppose to be hot. They were checking off boxes of being wild and crazy, trying to be "cool" and picking people randomly instead of picking someone they were attracted to. That makes it all sort of passionless...and not very hot.
Yeah, the key party was meant to be every bit as pathetic as it was shown. I don’t recall any of the couples having sex onscreen but the way things were playing out, I imagine it didn’t end well for anyone.
Guys, what the fuck are you talking about (litterally)?
Just off the top of my head:
kids fooling around with the nixon mask
kids naked in the same bed
kids in the bathroom showing their genitals to each other
Kevin Kline w/ wife in bed
Kevin Kline w/ mistress in bed
Joan Allen w/neighbor in her car....I still shiver just thinking about this one....
I mentioned the awkward virginity-losing scene already. Teens are award when they pop their cherries.
"kids naked in the same bed
kids in the bathroom showing their genitals to each other"
Don't remember these scenes. Seems to be more of the same.
"Kevin Kline w/ wife in bed
Kevin Kline w/ mistress in bed"
Weren't these post-coitus? Aside from that, Kevin Kline's sex life was meant to seem pathetic and unsexy. This is not an erotic movie.
"Joan Allen w/neighbor in her car"
Did they go all the way? I only remember them making out but again, it's been ages. Either way, it was just to get back at her husband. There was no love or passion involved.
It seems clear you don't remember much of the movie.
I recommend watching it again, especially the godawful sex scenes (and yes, some of them are post coitus...still a sex scene by Hollywood standars), then come back here and comment.
I only count sex scenes as sex scenes, just fyi. If no one is doing anything with someone else's genitals, it's not a sex scene.
I'm sure they are uncomfortable and I remember them being uncomfortable. Again, the movie is meant to be uncomfortable. Nervous teenagers losing their virginity is not a pretty sight. A lot of TV shows and movies make it seem like this big magical thing. The first time is always one of the worst. And the affair stuff is mean to be pathetic. If it were sexy and arousing, it would defeat the purpose of this movie.
Ap, genitals don't play a part in most sex scenes in hollywood: actors just kiss passionatelly, maybe all over the body, get slightly naked and than you cut to the next scene (usually the next morning).
What happens in the sex scenes in this movie is way more hard core than that, and they are all meant to be about fucking.
I agree that the aim here was not to make sexy or arousing sex scenes here. But these are horrid ones, like they had no idea what they were doing.
I've never seen anybody fuck this badly in real life.
I think everybody got that part. Still, watching people unable to have normal sex, rather than making them dysfunctional makes them incompetent-and with no good excuse.
I could give a pass to the kids being a bit awkward (messing around with a Nixon mask on??? That's just creepy and crazy, not awkward).
But the adults? With all the fucking they had going on, that's what they could do??? Wouldn't doing it constantly make them a bit good at it?
Come on, that was unrealistic. It had the opposite effect on me: it pulled me out of the moment to look at these scenes as overdone and unreasonably awful.
BTW, my first time was quite allright, nothing weird nor sad nor embarassing. I'm quite the good fuck, but that's not my point here: I can understand being not good in bed. This movie depicts every single sex act as bad, awkward, creepy and wrong.
THE MOVIE DOESNT DEPICT THE SEX ACTS...THATS IN YOUR HEAD...NORMAL PEOPLE HAVING SEX ISNT SUPER HOT OR ATTRACTIVE TO WATCH TO START WITH...YOU AND THIS CREEPY ARGUEMENT ARE BOTH PAST THE THROW AWAY BY DATE.
What a well phrased and balanced reply for a troll like you.
Why are you on moviechat if you don't want to chat?
Please don't reply, it's a rethoric question, and please go away from my thread.
ALWAYS CALLING OTHER TROLLS AND BEING OVER THE TOP RUDE...QUESTIONING OTHERS MOTIVATIONS.JUDGING PEOPLES OPINIONS LIKE YOU HOLD THE ANSWER SHEET.YOU MIGHT WANT TO GROW UP JUST A LITTLE BIT THERE KIDDO.
THAT RIGHT THERE IS THE PROBLEM....I ENJOY THE CAPS.I ALWAYS HAVE.PEOPLE NEED TO BE MORE WILLING TO LOOK PAST THEIR SILLY HANGUPS.YOU WOULD THINK GROWN PEOPLE ON A SITE TO EXPRESS THEIR OPINIONS AND FEELINGS ON TOPICS WOULD BE MORE OPEN MINDED TO THE PEOPLE THEY SPEAK TO'S OPINIONS AND FEELINGS.
So you reply to my post, I reply to you but I have to let it go or I'm creepy?
Let go of what? I'm just replying, if you don't want to chat about this topic, ciao
Lol. It wasn’t supposed to be about great sex. All the characters were conflicted about having sex, so that’s probably why all the sex scenes were awkward. The couple in the car were two leftovers from the key game. They were only participating to go along with their spouses and possibly trying to save their marriages in the midst of social pressures to drag the free love movement into the suburbs. The kids were all influenced by this while going through puberty/young adulthood and in general were novices about sex and relationships.
Ok I understand those intentions, but then there's bigot judgmentalism behind this "sex that isn't ......... is going to be godawful" (which btw doesn't justify the appaling scenes from this movie anyway).
Since when sex has a self regulating reward system that makes "decently motivated" sex better than conflicted, "leftovers from the key game" sex?
Great sex can come from completely indecent places, and vice versa.