Mitch: You're telling me that you're gonna fake some terrorist thing, just to scare some money out of Congress?
Leland Perkins: Well, unfortunately, Mr. Hennessey, I have no idea how to fake killing 4,000 people - so we're just gonna have to do it for real. Blame it on the Muslims, naturally. Then I get my funding.
just watched the movie and nearly s### myself when I heard that line. In fact I came on here to see if anyone noticed. There are several movies I've heard, Sword Fish included that have seemed to predict 9/11 this one was down to the casualties. The blame it on the Muslims line was most telling, good work, anyone else?
shareSTOP!! The U.S. Government did not see a beneficial or profitable excuse to collapse the twin towers and kill 5,000 Americans.
Almost all religions have good intentions but have misguided extremists who grab the headlines and unfortunately ruin their message. The same is true for different races. The media we watch distorts statistics to focus on the very small negative of an overall positive group. Just realize:
-Muslims are rarely terrorists, but most terrorists are Muslim
-Blacks and Hispanics are rarely gang members, but most gang members are black or Hispanic
-Mormons are rarely polygamists, but most polygamists claim Mormonism
-Whites are rarely pedophiles, but most pedophiles are white
-Very few men are rapists, yet most rapists are men
These facts would seem reversed if you watch the Today Show, MsNBC or CNN.
It's because the media wants to show the rare, dark and controversial side of every demographic; otherwise, showing the positive traits that most of the demographic groups stand for would not be entertaining news.
Finally, 9/11 was a religious inspired attack by extremists that call themselves Muslim. But it was by a group that is uneducated, misinformed, desperate and doesn't understand their own religions core beliefs. Like most extremists that stray from a decent groups core beliefs.
STOP this stupid debate!!
As for the OP. It is ironic the script describes the American Government framing Muslims committing mass murder. Just like the stupid conspiracy theorists did for 9/11. Why don't we call Tom Clancy a terrorist because he wrote a book about terrorists crashing a plane into the White House before 9/11? Hollywood and Authors make up stories based on possibilities. If the stories they invent ring true years later it's not because they helped planned the attack. It's because they see opportunities that make stories. BTW, if you believe Nostradamus is a fortune teller you are an idiot!!!
{Lobbyists run the country and Howard rules}
What conspiracy theory? - Understand the players;
1. George W. Bush -- eldest son of Bush crime family; guilty of election fraud in 2000, 2004; guilty of war crimes, war profiteering, treason, crimes against humanity; likely signed-off on 9-11 plot
2. Dick Cheney -- former PNAC member; former chairman of CFR; guilty of war profiteering, treason; was in bunker on 9-11 directing several "war games"; lied to 9-11 Omission Commission about timing of 9-11 activities
3. Donald Rumsfeld -- former Secretary of War and PNAC member; close friend of Cheney; was at Pentagon on 9-11; once slipped and said "when that missile hit the Pentagon"
4. Paul Wolfowitz -- Deputy Secretary of War on 9-11; "dual citizen" of US and Israel former PNAC member; chief architect of Iraq war; forced to resign in World Bank scandal
5. Richard Perle -- former assistant Secretary of War, chairman War Policy Board, and PNAC member;allegedly gave $100,000 to head of Pakistan's ISI, Mahmoud Ahmad; nicknamed "Prince of Darkness"
6. Douglas Feith -- effectively in command, with Wolfowitz, of War Department on 9-11; Undersecretary of War for Policy; former PNAC member
7. Dov Zakheim -- Pentagon comptroller when trillion dollars reported missing on 9-10-01; former CFR member; former CEO of fly-by-remote manufacturer; reputed 9-11 mastermind
8. George Tenet -- director of the CIA on 9-11; was awarded the "Medal of Freedom" by Bush for his fine work on 9-11
9. Robert Mueller -- FBI director on 9-11; under his "leadership" FBI field agents' warnings of an imminent attack were stifled
10. Thomas Pickard -- took over the job of FBI director from Louis Freeh in August 2001; held this position only for a few weeks before Richard Mueller became director; former Terror Task Force chief; John O'Neill complained about sabotage by Pickard
11. Dale Watson -- former Deputy Chief of the CIA at the Counter-Terrorist Center; appointed Inspector Deputy Assistant Director of the National Security Division (NSD), FBI Headquarters, Washington, DC in July 1998; appointed FBI Headquarters Assistant on December 6, 1999 by the Attorney General; ignored at least four different FBI agents' warnings including an "urgent cable" from the CIA on August 23rd about Almihdhar and Alhazmi
12. Dave Frasca -- FBI Radical Fundamentalists Unit Chief; personally scuttled the work of Kenneth Williams in July 2001 and Coleen Rowley in August 2001, the Arizona and Minnesota FBI agents who were actively investigating "terrorist" patsies in CIA-operated flight schools
13. Marion "Spike" Bowman -- FBI agent who thwarted FBI investigations into both Zacarias Moussaoui and the anthrax attacks on Congress.
14. John Ashcroft -- Attorney General on 9-11; protected "terrorist" patsy Abdussattar Shaikh from subpoena after 9-11; stopped flying commercial aircraft in 2001.
15. Michael Chertoff -- Assistant Attorney General on 9-11; freed over 100 Israeli spies in the US after 9-11; promoted to head Homeland Security.
16. Michael Mukasey -- Federal judge in New York; presided over 1993 WTC bombing case; active in 9-11 cases, including Larry Silverstein's insurance claims; oversaw the detained material witnesses of 9-11, including five Israeli Mossad agents apprehended by FBI; recently appointed by Bush to be the next Attorney General.
17. Ted Olson -- Solicitor General of the United States on 9-11; alleges that his wife, Barbara, phoned him from AA Flight 77 to report that it was highjacked by men with knives and box cutters; Flight 77 allegedly crashed into the Pentagon though there was no wreckage of a 757 at the site, no bodies, no luggage, and the hole in the side of the Pentagon was much too small to accommodate a 757 (Barbara is not likely alive, but she was not killed at the Pentagon event)
18. Colin Powell -- Secretary of State on 9-11; met with General Mahmoud Ahmad two days after 9-11; former chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff; helped cover up Vietnam My Lai massacre.
19. Condi Rice -- National Security Adviser on 9-11; promoted to Secretary of State; lied to 9-11 Omission Commission while under oath.
20. Tommy Thompson -- Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary; hired Jerome Hauer, former Office of Emergency Center, on 9-10-01
21. Jerome Hauer -- managing director of Kroll and senior adviser to US Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS) for National Security and Emergency Management on 9-11; put John O'Neill at the WTC on 9-11; lied to Dan Rather on CBS News on 9-11 about the controlled demolition of WTC buildings; director of Giuliani's Office of Emergency Management from 1996 to 2000
22. Porter Goss -- former House Intelligence Chair; was meeting with General Mahmoud Ahmad, head of Pakistan's ISI and 9-11 financier, on 9-11; promoted to Director of CIA, resigned after "hookergate" - later, D.C. Madam Deborah Pelfrey "suicided" in 2007.
23. Bob Graham -- former Florida Senator; was meeting with General Mahmoud Ahmad, head of Pakistan's ISI and 9-11 financier, on 9-11; ran for President in 2004
24. Marc Grossman -- Under Secretary for Political Affairs on 9-11; met with General Mahmoud Ahmad, head of Pakistan's ISI and 9-11 financier, on or shortly after 9-11.
25. Richard Armitage -- former member of PNAC, Deputy Secretary of State; met with General Mahmoud Ahmad, head of Pakistan's ISI and 9-11 financier, shortly after 9-11
26. Philip Zelikow -- led the 9-11 Cover-Up Commission; personally wrote the 9-11 Omission Commission Report, a best-selling work of fiction; appointed Counselor of US Department of State.
27. Ari Fleischer -- White House spokesman for Bush on 9-11; "dual citizen" of US and Israel; connected to the extremist group called the Chabad Lubavitch Hasidics
28. Andrew Card -- Bush's Chief of Staff on 9-11; was with Bush at Booker Elementary School in Florida on 9-11; claims to have whispered to Bush, "A second plane hit the second tower, America is under attack"
29. Karl Rove -- Bush's top strategist, known as "Bush's Brian"; America's Joseph Goebbels; was behind the campaign to oust Georgia Representative Cynthia McKinney who was the first nationally-known politician to question Bush's role in 9-11; in June 2005, said, "Conservatives saw the savagery of 9-11 in the attacks and prepared for war, liberals saw the savagery of the 9-11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers"
30. Richard Meyers -- in charge of USA air defenses on 9-11; lied to 9-11 Omission Commission about reasons for air defense failure on 9-11; promoted to Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
31. Ralph Eberhardt -- NORAD Commander on 9-11; fanatical supporter of missile defense scheme, militarization of space; enthusiastic supporter of merging law enforcement and the military.
32. Larry Arnold -- NORAD Commander Major General on 9-11; has used 9-11 to push militarization of USA.
33. Eric Findley -- Canadian Air Force Major General; acting commander of NORAD on 9-11
34. Montague Winfield -- Major General in charge of Pentagon war room on 9-10-01, the evening of September 10th he requested a rookie to stand in for him on 9-11
35. Richard Mies -- former Admiral; ran Global Guardian "war game" on 9-11 out of US Strategic Command (Stratcom) at Offutt Air Force Base; now CEO of Hicks & Associates, a "strategic consultant" to the USG dealing in "military transformation"
36. Henry Shelton -- Chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff on 9-11; supported formation of Able Danger
37. Peter Schoomaker -- US Army Chief of Staff; former SOCOM (Special Operations Command) chief; ran Able Danger
38. Geoffrey Lambert -- Major General; SOCOM (Special Operations Command) Intel Chief; made Able Danger, the program that tracked patsy "terrorists", off limits to FBI
39. John Brinkerhoff -- retired US Army Colonel who was a career senior executive in the Office of Secretary of War; from 1981 to 1983, FEMA associate director for national preparedness where he developed plan for martial law; claims intentions of Posse Comitatus are "misunderstood and misapplied", that USG has "full and absolute authority" to use troops to quell American uprising; after 9-11, joined Anser Institute for Homeland Security and wrote "talking points" supporting revised "national security initiatives" that would allow imposition of martial law
40. John Lehman -- Reagan's Navy Secretary from 1981 till 1987; claims US is in religious war against "violent, Islamic Fundamentalism"; member 9-11 Omission Commission; PNAC member
41. Tony Gentry -- Army Intelligence and Security Command General Counsel; ordered 2.5 terrabytes of Able Danger data destroyed.
42. Philip Odeen -- as director of Program Analysis for the National Security Council, provided staff support to Henry Kissinger from 1971 to 1973; served as Deputy Assistant Secretary of War in Systems Analysis; named to chair the National War Panel in 1997; former president of Reynolds and Reynolds; former CEO and president of BDM International; executive vice president of Washington operations of TRW
43. Elliot Abrams -- former member of PNAC, National Security Council; pleaded guilty in 1991 to lying to Congress about Iran-Contra affair.
44. Lewis "Scooter" Libby -- former PNAC member; studied political science at Yale under Paul Wolfowitz; aid to Cheney; convicted for lying about outing of Valerie Plame.
45. Jack Abramoff -- entertained USG "terrorist" patsy Mohammed Atta on his yacht just before 9-11; convicted criminal lobbyist.
46. Jeb Bush -- Florida governor on 9-11; declared martial law in Florida four days before 9-11; brother of George Bush; PNAC member; guilty of election fraud in 2000
47. Rudolph Giuliani -- Mayor of New York on 9-11; hailed as "hero" for his "gutsy" leadership on 9-11; allegedly involved with FEMA and former NYC Police Chief Kerik in Operation Code Angel - presided in secret over Tripod II Simulation during the same day as 9/11 attacks.
48. Bernard Kerik -- NYC Police Chief on 9-11; "sidekick" of Giuliani; allegedly involved with FEMA in WTC demolition "war games" called Operation Code Angel.
49. Lewis Eisenberg -- chairman Port Authority of New York and New Jersey on 9-11; authorized transfer of WTC leases to Silverstein and Lowy just weeks before 9-11; later appointed chairman of Republican National Committee.
50. Eliot Spitzer -- New York Attorney General on 9-11; barred his top aide, Deputy Attorney General Dietrich Snell, from testifying to Congress on Able Danger; threw out Karl Schwarz's 9-11 synopsis
51. Richard Holbrooke -- former US ambassador to UN; CFR member; co-chaired "Independent Task Force on America's Response to Terrorism" in which the Official Conspiracy Theory (OCT) was promoted
52. John Deutch -- former Undersecretary of War, director of CIA; co-authored paper, "Catastrophic Terrorism: A National Policy" with Zelikow, Ashton Carter; senior partner at Global Technology Partners, an affiliate of Rothschild North America; MIT professor; grandson of Yonah Fischer, Antwerp diamond merchant who ran Zionist Federation of Belgium
53. Ashton Carter -- co-authored paper, "Catastrophic Terrorism: A National Policy" with Zelikow and Deutch; senior partner at Global Technology Partners, an affiliate of Rothschild North America.
54. Michael Ledeen -- became "anti-terrorism" advisor to Secretary of State, Al Haig in 1981; contacts with mullahs in Iran-Contra affair; alleged ties to Italian fascist P2 Masonic Lodge; contacts with Libby, Cheney's Chief of Staff; top NeoCon(vict) advisor to Bush and Karl Rove; member AEI (American Enterprise Institute); wrote book extolling fascism.
55. Abdussattar Shaikh -- FBI informant to the San Diego office; helped bring "terrorist" patsies to USA; protected by Attorney General Ashcroft.
56. Abdullah Noman -- worked for the US Consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia; filed 10-15 visas for the patsy 9-11 "hijackers" in the Visa Express Program.
57. Daniel Lewin -- officer in elite, secret unit of Israeli military called "Sayeret Matkal"; orchestrated activities of Mossad agents in USA before 9-11; was allegedly stabbed or "shot" by highjacker Satam al-Suqami before AA flight 11 crashed into the WTC.
58. Dominic Suter -- Mossad agent; his front company, Urban Moving Systems, employed the five Mossad agents caught celebrating in New York on 9-11.
59. Sivan Kurzberg -- driver of van belonging to the celebrating Israelis; when stopped by police on 9-11, he said "We are Israelis. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are your problem".
60. John Gross -- one of the lead engineers for the flawed NIST report on why the WTC buildings collapsed; denies existence of molten steel at the WTC
61. Theresa McAllister -- edited the flawed NIST report on why the WTC buildings collapsed.
62. Ronald Hamburger -- structural engineer and Senior Principal at Simpson Gumpertz and Heger consulting engineers in San Francisco; was a principal author of FEMA's initial report on the collapse of the twin towers; later a key participant in the flawed NIST report on why the WTC buildings collapsed.
63. William Baker -- member of FEMA Probe Team; partner with Skidmore, Owings, Merrill; contributed to the flawed NIST report on why the WTC buildings collapsed.
64. Harold Nelson -- contributed to the flawed NIST report on why the WTC buildings collapsed.
65. Ramon Gilsanz -- contributed to the flawed NIST report on why the WTC buildings collapsed.
66. Shankar Nair -- contributed to the flawed NIST report on why the WTC buildings collapsed; quoted in Chicago Tribune, September 19, 2001 that "Already there is near-consensus as to the sequence of events that led to the collapse of the World Trade Center".
67. Gene Corley -- led FEMA/ASCE WTC collapse "investigation"; was the principle investigator for ASCE and FEMA of the 1995 bombing of the Murrah Federal Office Building in Oklahoma City.
68. Paul Mlakar -- part of ASCE team that investigated both WTC and Murrah Federal building attacks.
69. Mete Sozen -- part of ASCE team that investigated both WTC and Murrah Federal building attacks.
70. Charles Thornton -- partner of Richard Tomasetti; told Karl Koch, whose company erected the WTC steel, "Karl, we all know what caused the collapse"; part of ASCE team that investigated both WTC and Murrah Federal building attacks.
71. Richard Tomasetti -- partner of Charles Thornton; reportedly behind the unprecedented and widely criticized decision to destroy most of the WTC steel evidence.
72. Victor Ganzi -- President and CEO of Hearst Corporation since June 1, 2002; the Hearst publication, Popular Mechanics, has repeatedly tried to debunk the truth of 9-11.
73. Benjamin Chertoff -- 25-year-old cousin of Michael Chertoff; senior "researcher" for Popular Mechanics' hit piece on 9-11 Truth Movement.
74. Kevin Delaney -- FAA manager at the New York Air Route Traffic Control Center who destroyed controllers' tapes of 9-11.
75. Marvin Bush -- brother of George Bush; on board of Securacom, US-Kuwaiti company paid $9.2 million to manage WTC security October 1996 to 1998; on board of HCC Insurance, big WTC insurer.
76. Wirt Walker -- cousin of George Bush; principal at Securacom, US-Kuwaiti joint-venture that managed security for WTC, United Airlines, and Dulles Airport, all of which figured into 9-11.
77. Larry Silverstein -- he and partner Frank Lowy obtained 99-year lease on WTC shortly before 9-11; made several billion dollars on 9-11 insurance fraud; admitted to "pulling" WTC 7; Zionist
78. Frank Lowy -- he and partner Larry Silverstein obtained 99-year lease on WTC shortly before 9-11; came to Palestine in 1945 from Hungarian to fight as Golani commando in Israeli "War of Independence"; Australia's second richest person; in May 2007, investigated by Israeli police for corruption scandal involving Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmer.
79. David Rockefeller -- vice director of the Council on Foreign Relations (1949-1985), vice president (1950-1970), and chairman (1970-1985); as chairman of the Downtown-Lower Manhattan Association (1958 to 1975) was primary builder of WTC complex; founder and honorary chairman of the Trilateral Commission; president or CEO of Chase Manhattan Bank, 1961 to 1981; 9-11 was the anniversary of 1973 CIA-sponsored coup plotted by David Rockefeller's cabal and overseen by Nelson's protégé Henry Kissinger that toppled Chile's President Salvadore Allende.
80. Nicholas Rockefeller -- told film-maker Aaron Russo of coming catastrophic event eleven months before 9-11.
81. Warren Buffett -- was hosting golf charity event at the US Strategic Command headquarters at Offutt Air Force Base in Omaha on 9-11 (Bush flew to Offutt afternoon of 9-11); world's second richest person.
82. Rupert Murdoch -- key player in corporate media which began the 9-11 cover-up on day one; connected to individuals who privatized and leased WTC just weeks before 9-11; vocal supporter of Benjamin Netanyahu and Ariel Sharon; honored by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) and the United Jewish Appeal (UJA), in which Silverstein, Lowy, and Eisenberg all hold senior positions.
83. Maurice Greenberg -- CEO of American International Group (AIG) on 9-11 which became co-owner of the "private spy agency", Kroll Associates, in 1993 and was a major share-holder in Marsh & McClennan whose CEO on 9-11 was Maurice's son Jeffrey; director of the New York Federal Reserve bank (1988-1995); deputy chairman of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) in 1996; major investor in the Blackstone Group
84. Jules Kroll -- founder of Kroll Corporation, a "security services" company which was in charge of "security" at WTC on 9-11; has close links to CIA and is active private military contractor in Iraq.
85. Paul Bremer -- Marsh & McClennan executive on 9-11; Chairman of the Congressional National Commission on Terrorism, 1999 to 2000; US Ambassador-at-Large for Counterterrorism, 1986 to 1989; Presidential Envoy to Irag and Adminstrator of the Coaltion Provisional Authority, May 2003 to December 2004.
86. Wallace Hilliard -- with Saudi investors including Shiek Kamal Adham, Adnan Khashoggi, and Prince Nawaf bin Abdul Aziz. bought Venice, Florida Huffman Aviation in 1999 where Mohammed Atta and other alleged 9-11 highjackers allegedly learned to fly; flight school linked to CIA firm.
87. Peter Peterson -- CEO of the Blackstone Group, parent corporation of one of three lease-holders for WTC 7 on 9-11; also chairman of the CFR and the Federal Reserve Bank of New York on 9-11; CEO of the Institute for International Economics in October 2000.
88. A.B. "Buzzy" Krongard -- now number three executive director at the CIA; until 1998, managed firm used to place "put options" on United Airlines which has left $2.5 million in "profits" unclaimed.
89. Mark Loizeaux -- as CEO of CDI was instrumental in "recycling" steel from WTC crime scene; CDI also buried the rubble from the crime scene of the Murrah Federal Building.
90. Loring Knoblauch -- CEO of Underwriters Labs; said that jet fuel fires were not "reasonably foreseeable"; resigned suddenly in August 2004 after UL performed tests of WTC floor models where floors did not collapse and were barely affected.
91. Michael Cherkasky -- CEO of Kroll on 9-11; former investigator in the Manhattan DA's Office from 1978 to 1994; now CEO of insurance-firm Marsh & McClennan.
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92. Frank Carlucci -- former Secretary of War; affiliated with PNAC; served as chairman of the Carlyle Group (1992-2003); on BoD of BDM International.
93. William Kristol -- PNAC co-founder; adherent of Leo Strauss; editor of The Weekly Standard; strong advocate of the Iraq war.
94. William Perry -- former Secretary of War; associated with the Rothschild's banking empire through Global Technology, a Rothschild affiliate.
95. James Woolsey -- former CIA director; PNAC member; claims "incompetence" was reason for 9-11.
96. Newt Gingrich -- former Speaker of the House; PNAC member; reputed to be a member of the CFR; served on the Pentagon's War Policy Board.
97. Henry Kissinger -- long criminal history; wanted for war crimes in several countries; sat on War Policy Board under Perle; chosen to lead 9-11 Cover-Up Omission Commission.
98. George H.W. Bush -- Skull and Bones; CIA operative former head of CIA; son (Neil) was friend of Hinkley, who shot Reagan when Bush was VP; war profiteer.
99. Tony Blair -- British Prime Minister on 9-11; ally and partner in crime of George Bush; London 7-7 bombings were also "false flag" operation.
100. Pauline Neville-Jones -- International Governor of BBC on 9-11; Chairman of UK Joint Intelligence Committee (1991-1994); Chairman of QinetiQ Group, a war technology company with government customers in UK and USA; Chairman of Information Assurance Advisory Council (IAAC).
101. Mahmoud Ahmad -- head of Pakistan's ISI; had Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh wire $100,000 to lead 9-11 "terrorist" patsy Mohammad Atta.
102. Benjamin Netanyahu -- former Israeli Prime Minister; said 9-11 was "good" for US-Israeli relationship; in NYC on 9-11 and in London on 7-7 bombings.
103. Ariel Sharon -- Israeli Prime Minister on 9-11; heavy Mossad involvement in 9-11 (200 Israeli intelligence agents rounded up after 9-11, five Mossad agents arrested filming and celebrating WTC collapses, employees of Mossad-operated company at WTC notified hours before plane hit)deceased 4-14-2006.
Did you know that from the 103 people named on the this list of suspected 9-11 criminal co-conspirators there are:
22 current or former members of George W. Bush's White House 21.4%
4 current or former members of Congress 3.9%
6 current or former FBI agents 5.8%
6 people currently or formerly with the CIA 5.8%
6 current or former officials of New York 5.8%
12 current or former high-ranking USG military commanders 11.7%
13 current or former USG officials (not included above) 12.6%
12 current or former members of PNAC 11.7%
16 consultants, lobbists, or members of a "think tank" (not including PNAC) 15.5%
12 engineers 11.7%
34 current or former corporate executives 33.0%
4 senior "statesmen" 3.9%
5 Bush familiars and close relatives 4.9%
1 Canadian 1.0%
1 Pakistanian 1.0%
2 Arabs 1.9%
2 Brits 1.9%
4 known or suspected Mossad agents 3.9%
14 people who hold "dual citizenship" 13.6%
27 Israelis (including people with "dual citizenship" noted above) 26.2% - to which former CIA Analyst, Ray McGovern would attest to, specifically.
WAKE UP. Put the preconceptions down. Understand the above and how they benefited from this. The underwear bomber hoax didnt go down, and neither did the Swine Flu Hoax.
103 involved co-conspirators? And not one of them has been caught talking about it or come forward to admit it? No realistic solid evidence has ever been shown. Other than job titles and some group affiliations, everything you wrote are unfounded accusations and speculations with no proof.
Any criminal investigator will tell you that 9/10 times the most obvious suspect is the guilty one, and the simplest answer is usually the right one. They will also tell you that the more people involved with a criminal plan the more likely an informant will come forward to turn in the rest or at least mention it to someone else who turns them in. 103 people cannot keep their mouths shut for very long.
I am not satisfied with any of the "evidence" that has ever been pointed at because it's all speculative or flimsy at best. Plus it's never from a credible source; it's usually from some nut on a movie blog website. J/K.
{Lobbyists run the country and Howard rules}
Remember, ignorant dummmies the world over once thought Earth was the center of the solar system, and that the world was flat, mainly because that was what the reigning (mainstream) political and religious powers were preaching at the time. Anyone with a differing opinion was ridiculed & persecuted for it. If you don't consider all opinions and take time to at least pursue possibilities outside of your own (mainstream) view, you are potentially risking being in the group of similar 21st century ignorant dummies who deny anything even remotely suspicious about the official stories of 9/11 & the 7/7 London bombings. Nothing is black and white, and nothing is rarely ever as simple as what someone tells you it is, ESPECIALLY if that information is meant to be disseminated amongst and believed by MILLIONS of people as unquestionable fact.
I'm sorry to sound insulting, but I can't help be amazingly frustrated at some people's sheer willful ignorance and ignoring easily-researchable facts simply because they are not in the mainstream media. It's depressing. Anger and vitriol are NOT helpful in any way toward convincing someone of an opinion, or of even CONSIDERING a differing viewpoint, but damn, being nice and trying to explain and kindly asking to research things certainly doesn't work either.
It's hard to change your opinion about something, especially when it has significant emotional and moral ramifications. It is literally fear-inducing to even entertain the thought that one cannot trust their government. It is a mental barrier that many people cannot cross, and therefore they block out anything that leads their thoughts down that path.
Amongst VERY MANY other things, personally I think it's odd that a group of cave-men terrorsists were smart enough to pull of the hugest, most complex, most successful terrorist attack in US history, yet they were not smart enough to plan and execute ONE SINGLE TERRORIST ATTACK SINCE THEN on US soil. Where are all the "sleeper cells" the US gvmt has been BOOGY BOOGY scaring everyone about over the years? Give me a break.
False-flag government operations are not a new thing. They've been around long before 9/11 & 7/7, long before the prior WTC attack(s), long before the Murrah building, long before the disturbingly coincidental line in this movie which started this thread, and certainly long before any single one of us in this thread has been alive.
But go on, continue to totally ignore anything and everything that should raise suspicion even in a retarded monkey's crippled brain:
- Bush reading a story about a goat to children in a Florida school during the 9/11 attacks, Andy Card walking in to interrupt and tell Bush of the 2nd attack, and Bush calmly sitting there & continuing to read, with no change in expression on his face, as if this were expected, or as if he is a total moron. Research this a bit on your own (after all, that's what I did), there are probably still hundreds of articles and videos.
- Rumsfield stating "...missile that hit the Pentagon..." Research this a bit on your own (after all, that's what I did), there are probably still hundreds of articles and videos.
- Of the hundreds of surveillance cameras on the Pentagon grounds, and on the surrounding properties, only ONE extremely questionable short clip (literally 4 or 5 frames of video) was EVER released to the public of the Pentagon crash, due to "national security risks". National security risks??? From something that ALREADY HAPPENED? WHY EVEN RELEASE *ONE* VIDEO IF *ALL* THE OTHERS ARE "RISKS"???! Research this a bit on your own (after all, that's what I did), there are probably still hundreds of articles and videos.
- http://pilotsfor911truth.org/ Professional pilots stating the maneuvers exhibited on 9/11 (in particular the Pentagon plane) would have been impossible to pull off even by the most skilled pilots, but especially impossible by the supposed muslim terrorists in the supposed commercial air liners. I have the "luxury" of living within driving distance to the Pentagon, ride the train past it every day, and have driven down 395 past it for the specific purpose of verifying for myself, with my own eyes: how ridiculously impossible it would have been for ANYONE to fly a large commercial airliner at the angle and speed as what supposedly happened, missing 395 entirely, and slamming almost perfectly level into the Pentagon (as the video referenced in my above note shows) on 9/11.
- Steel-reinforced skyscrapers literally vaporizing into powder in near-free-fall. I watched a lot of Discovery channel and TLC when I was a kid, and was particularly fascinated with controlled demolitions and *beep* blowing up (what little boy isn't?), so it amazed me that flying planes into buildings has at least 100% of the efficiency of planned, controlled demolitions. Hell, if we can fly plans into buildings to vaporize them into dust, bring them down into their own footprint, all in a matter of hours, then why the hell do we have controlled demolition companies who take MONTHS to plan and execute these types of things? Surely the plane option is far quicker & cheaper!
This thread is pretty amusing. It's hard to believe people are STILL going on about this crazy conspiracy stuff.
This video of a debate between a skeptic and a 9/11 truther illustrates pretty clearly where conspiracy theorists go wrong in their critical thinking:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJBLQVbU7As
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWYyfvOrO-s&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-1klxTIsXo&feature=related
@ sljones44: WAKE UP indeed. Your non-movie-related post is out of place, and not likely to convert supporters over to your planet. Your mention of Karl Rove aka "Bush's Brian" made me laugh.
Oh, you missed a perp-- #104. Saddam Hussein -- the real mastermind of 9/11 using his famous WMD's. Good thing W finally got him; "Mission Accomplished"!
BTW -- I enjoyed The Long Kiss Goodnight.
Finally, 9/11 was a religious inspired attack by extremists that call themselves Muslim. Bangesuper
Really? How do you know this? You are the one person who knows who was behind 9/11? Why are you perpetuating this so called "stupid" debate, if it's so stupid. Makes you kind of sound stupid. Is this part of a book you are writing. I can debate what I want an not be an idiot. Your facts make no sense, you make no sense. You have nothing to offer, goodnight.
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This video maybe help > http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=160547124011002
Watch, listen, think, and find the truth. peace.
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Hey look,
I just found a thread full of morons who think the US Government / CIA destroyed the WTC and framed it on the Muslims.
*YAWN*
That's weak. They did the same thing in that other movie, too.
It kind of gives the political mentality of some filmmakers. I don't know what they think is so valuable about destorying you're own buildings in favor of something that costs too much to do. Not just money, but lives. What do they think is so kind and generous about places like Afghanistan or Iraq. They were terrible places before we were at war with them.
OP, I just saw the movie again last night, and I rewound that scene. It is indeed CREEPY.
The plot point was inspired by the '93 WTC attack, which WAS carried out by Muslims, thus the reason to blame the next attack on them, but the close call on the casualties is what catches most people as bizarre.
I watched it for the first time last night since 1996, and that whole conversation was really really creepy. The talk about the 93 bombing of the WTC and then the talk about killing 4,000 people--so close to the number that actually died in the WTC. Made the hairs on my neck twitch for sure.
shareTLKG's writer, Shane Black, also directed/co-wrote "Iron Man 3", which portrays the Mandarin as an Osama bin Laden-like terrorist who turns out to be an actor fronting for the false flag attacks of the true villain working behind the scenes, a plot which mirrors a popular theory of 9/11 skeptics. One must wonder if Shane Black has some inside knowledge...
To see the only real monster, one must only look in the mirror.
Another one that gets me is the opening credits to the TV show "Seven Days" in that opening montage you see a plane fly right into the side of the White House.
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