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Thomas Daggett Was An Angel

posted 16 years ago by alfa3647
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Keyword...WAS.

I can't believe noone on this board caught this fact. I just can't believe it. Thomas Daggett was called a former priest here. That's as far as the insight on this board went with that character. I contend with great confidence that he was an angel that became a man. Why? How? This is why...

1. In the beginning of the movie he has flashbacks about being an angel. The visions pain him because they are personal memories.

2. In the middle of the movie he has more flashbacks in the church. What does Gabriel (Christopher Walken) say to him? He says..."It's unusual, to see someone your age in a church on a week night. Don't get me wrong, I think it's a sign of excellent character. You're not FROM here" (emphasis his).

3. Number 2 above is proof enough, but then Gabriel claims to have known Thomas from before he was on Earth. He says to Thomas "Before you were born, I told you a secret, then I put my finger there and said SHHHH".

4. Lucifer creeps up behind Thomas while Thomas is crouching outdoors. Lucifer asks Thomas "What if an angel, LIKE YOU, didn't understand?"...Bingo! Lucifer is telling Thomas that he fell from Heaven because he lost his faith as a former angel.

The idea that Thomas Daggett WAS an angel is not alien to the Prophecy genre/trilogy. The 3rd movie, Prophecy The Ascent, also starring Christopher Walken, show Gabriel made man. Eventually his purpose on Earth is revealed...

a) to learn to finally respect "monkeys" (Humans) by becoming one.
b) to become the personal tutor and guardian of Danyael, The Word made flesh.

I rest my case.

[–] brightmidnight71 9 years ago

1. There's really no evidence to support that these are memories and not visions of the war in heaven. Which is what they are and why Katherine also sees them later in the cave.

2. "It's unusual to see someone your age in a church on a weeknight. You're not from here." That's just Walken being Walken. That line could have been delivered as a dottering old man and it would seem completely different. You're simply reading too much into this one.

3. When Gabriel is talking about telling a secret, he's referring to all of humanity. It's an old story that an angel tells souls the secret of God's grace and then puts his finger to our lips so we can't talk about it but we all understand. It's a folksy explanation for the existence of the philtrum on the upper lip of most people.

4. "What if an angel, like you, didn't understand."
You simply misunderstood this line.
He's asking him to imagine how it would feel if an angel didn't understand the how and why of the universe and God's will the same way humans don't understand it.
He's not creating a simile between Thomas and Angels.
You could rewrite it as: What if an angel, like humans, didn't understand.

[–] briscut 9 years ago

He's a mortal angel. Somewhere in the film, the narrator mentions mortal angels.