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Is Chad Palomino a parody of Brad Pitt?

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If Chad Palamino's character was based on Brad Pitt, I don't think Tom DiCillo is going to publicly admit it. If you want to believe it's based on Brad Pitt, look only to the fact that Mr. DiCillo wrote the script for "Living in Oblivion" and had directed only one feature film before: "Johnny Suede," starring Brad Pitt.

Interestingly, both films also feature a male little person in a dream sequence, so maybe one would want to find out if the director had a "falling out" with the little person featured in "Johnny Suede."

If you don't want to believe it, look to the fact that Mr. DiCillo had worked on several feature films as a cinematographer before directing "Living in Oblivion," so he had had experiences with several leading men.

Mr. DiCillo discusses his experiences directing "Johnny Suede" in a book entitled, "My First Movie: Twenty Celebrated Directors Talk About Their First Film" by Stephen Lowenstein. In it, Mr. DiCillo says he was unsatisfied with Brad Pitt's interpretation of the role of "Johnny Suede," but then Mr. DiCillo takes full responsibility for not directing Brad Pitt's performance differently. So, apparently it was not all sweetness and light between Tom DiCillo and Brad Pitt.

P.S. Brad Pitt did "Living in Oblivion" after his breakthrough in "Thelma and Louise."

Vote Yes or No: Is Chad Palomino a parody of Brad Pitt?

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I thought that, but DiCillo denies it in the commentary more than once, but then he would I guess.
Pitt was originally going to do the Chad role in Living in Oblivion - a suggestion of Catherine Keener, not DiCillo which is interesting. I think Chad is based on one of the Baldwin brothers. Perhaps there is something of Brad in there... the name is too obvious for starters. I don't know. Interested to know what others perceive it to be.

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Aside from the fact that the director himself says no, and that he says James LeGros was imitating another actor LeGros had recently worked with, you have to look at the timing. Chad was obviously already a big star, throwing his weight around, and cast for his marquee value. NONE of that would have been true for Brad Pitt when the movie was conceived and shot.

Living in Oblivion was released in January 1995, a few WEEKS after the first releases of Legends of the Fall (December 1994), his big breakout starring role, & Interview with the Vampire (November 1994) with his key costarring part. Se7en, Twelve Monkeys, Sleepers, and The Devil's Own all followed in 1995. So before Living in Oblivion, Pitt had had small parts in big movies, and big parts in small movies, but never a starring part in a major release.

Patrick Swayze, in contrast, starred in Dirty Dancing (1987), Road House (1989), and Ghost (1990) shortly before, and in Point Break (1991) he sported long blonde hair and worked with James LeGros. He is a far more logical choice as the model of a horribly overconfident, self-satisfied, blond heartthrob marquee star in 1993 or 1994 than Pitt, whose career really had not yet taken off.

I think the part of Chad was written pretty generically and LeGros then used Swayze as the model for his performance.

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Thank you, Watchman777.

Matt Dillon *is* an interesting suggestion, and likelier by far than Brad Pitt. However, as with Pitt, time plays tricks with memory. I think we consider him a bigger deal in retrospect than he was at the time.

Most of Dillon's movies were low-grossing or only modest hits ($15M box office or thereabouts) and his biggest hit, The Outsiders ($25M), also sported Swayze. Dirty Dancing ($64M), Ghost ($217M), and Point Break ($43M) all made a much bigger splash than anything Dillon had been in. Even the silly Road House grossed $30M. In addition, LeGros had worked with Swayze more recently. Hence more likely.

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LeGros worked with Dillon again in 1992, after Point Break, in "Singles". Which means, according to your theory, he is more likely to be the source of inspiration for LeGros...

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You ignored the major point of my argument in favor of the small ending bit. The most important thing is that Chad Palomino was HUGE box office, in a fine position to be throwing his weight around, and "slumming" to achieve additional respect by acting in an independent movie that might not make as much money, but would have more cachet. All of that fits Swayze better than Dillon, with his many smaller-grossing pictures--even without the director having been quoted years later as saying Swayze was most definitely LeGros's model for Palomino.

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Just based on a quick look at people that Legros could have based this character two names jumped out quickly. The first was Matt Dillon which I could see, but how about Keanu Reeves? He definetly could be the template for the vapid, self involved actor with limited talent. I would imagine the truth is that is actually a composite of many different actors though.

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Keanu is a possibility, and more likely than Matt Dillon because he'd been in several big hits (Point Break and the Bill and Ted movies) before Living in Oblivion was filmed. But his parts in the Bill and Ted movies are not heartthrob roles, and you still have to contend with the director's clear statement that LeGros based the characterization on Swayze.

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I always felt Chad was simular to Brad Pitt, but that was long before I watched the film with the commentry where it was suggested that he was based on Pitt.

I think he's simular, but I'd be dissaponted if Pitt turned out to be that much of a jerk.

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Isn'it pretty obvious actually ,a big YES

" Look, there's two women fuc*ing a polar bear!" - Fear And Loathing in Las Vegas 1998

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I suggest you read my reasoning (currently bottom of page 3 in this thread) before being so sure of your conclusion.

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People are dense...the character was written with a number of actors in mind obviously, but Legros brought his own interpretation of the character in with his performance and his interpretation is of Swayze influence.

It's Swayze

Even the most primitive society has an innate respect for the insane.

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WOW Swayze? very interesting! We have this movie (VHS) and it was like a game, who the actor "CHAD" was? thought Pitt, no, someone mentioned Jeremy Piven, he seems, younger? but the jerk part fits Piven(heard from people). Yet now that you mentioned Swayze, that does seem to fit the description, has he made low budget films? hope we get more clues....

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interesting note :
Brad Pitt auditoned for the role that went to James Le Gros in "PHantasm II"

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You know, it's funny. I believe it says here in the trivia for this movie or somewhere that James Le Gros based Chad Palomino on another actor he worked with recently before shooting this movie that acted cheeky and obnoxious like good ol' Chad, and says he will not name names. But I think I might know who it is. I saw that he worked with Steve Weber in a movie or two before doing this...and I can easily see that guy acting like that.

I vote Steve Weber.

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It's Swayze.

Even the most primitive society has an innate respect for the insane.

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Yes and pitt can def be a dick behind the scenes especially in his earlier days. All he did was bitch during interview with the vampire trying to make tom cruise look bad. Most people buy this cause cruise is hated by the media, but everyone i know that worked with both actors says cruise is way cooler and the nicer more professional star.

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