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Did not like the racism..

posted 7 years ago by sneezer (166)
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Ramsey made the comment about Lippizaner stallions, from Portugal, and them being "all white". Hunter responds that they are not from Portugal, but from Spain, and at birth, they are black. Ruined the movie, kinda. Why can't black and white antagonists in a movie just fight without racism? This was a fantastic, thrilling movie! Don't ruin it by putting racism into it.

[–] Techto (1355) 4 years ago

Yeah, I didn’t like it either. It’s not enough that the captain was in the wrong and lacking in sophistication and, at times, decency, he had to be racist, too. I rolled my eyes.

[–] The LA Baker (971) a year ago

You, are ignorant beyond belief.

[–] Techto (1355) a year ago

I could explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

[–] The LA Baker (971) 6 months ago

I understand what you are saying. I am saying it is wrong and stems from ignorance.
He was not racist. Full stop.

[–] Techto (1355) 6 months ago

He’s a non-racist who engages in race baiting for constructive reasons or for good-natured ribbing? Naw, Occam’s razor says he’s racist.

[–] trevorh321 (5495) 4 years ago

I only like racism when it's against white people. Then it's ok.

[–] Mustang (5520) 3 years ago

Was it meant as some kind of metaphor? The two characters using the horses colour as a means of claiming their own race is superior?

[–] The LA Baker (971) a year ago

No. There was no racism implied. They never even argued about the color of the horses. The argument was if they were from Spain or Portugal.
The OP and people agreeing are the racists because they have been brainwashed to think of everything in terms of whites oppressing blacks due to racism.
The actual discussion in that scene was a nuanced way of showing how Denzel's character was not rigid "black and white/right or wrong" thinking but Hackman's character was.
It was meant to showcase how they thought and commanded differently, NOT that Ramsey(Hackman) was a racist...

FFS! These people do nothing but search for things they can perceive as racist through their own brainwashed minds.

If it wasn't so sad/scary it would be hilarious.

[–] Mustang (5520) a year ago

I'm not into all that race bating shit either and if made today the argument would not have happened as one of them would have Googled the answer.

[–] BOandBarbecue (2264) 2 years ago

it is best to ignore this shit film.

this film is overblown. it is written by simple minded hack. it is directed by simple minded hack. it is cheap knock off of Mutiny on the Bounty, but with race baiting to add more tensions because the 90s was start of obess with race in film.

this film is also rip off of Das Boots (music) and Hunt for Red Octobers. just a dumb retard version of all this film.

[–] The LA Baker (971) a year ago

Don't sugar-coat it.
Tell us what you really think.

[–] AviAAksenazi (670) a year ago

That was Tarantino writing!

[–] Tam87 (1350) 6 months ago

Films were becoming increasingly more diverse during this era, and race was starting to become an issue when it was ignored before.

Had this film come out in 1985, the Denzel part would've been played by a white actor and that line of dialogue wouldn't exist.

[–] beachem (2) 3 months ago

I agree. I didn't see how this miniature scene added much value and played up racism needlessly.