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The great irony of 'In the Pale Moonlight'


The most highly rated ep of DS9 (and possibly ST as a whole?) is the most atypical and out of kilter with Rodenberry's vision.

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Completely agree and I remember the first time I saw it I thought man what a shame for both Sisco and Roddenberry.
Don't get me wrong, it's an amazing and critical episode, but it goes against everything he envisioned. Unfortunately for him, the writers seem to know more about the art of winning wars than he would like.

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They tried to do the same with the Doctor in a later episode with section 31 but it didn't really work out so well.

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Section 31 was actually before In the Pale Moonlight.

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I'm talking about the later ep where Bashir attends the medical conference.

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I don't see it that way. Gene's vision of the future was about the human race as a whole. It never was an absolute with individuals. In every series including TOS there were individuals (humans) who did not fit the larger mold.

It was Sisko putting the needs of the many over the needs of the few.

That's how I see and it's why Sisko is the most badass of all the Captains.



No Sitcoms! No Sports! No Reality! Death to the new timeline!

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Badass indeed but perhaps the most human?

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Roddenberry's vision was unrealistic and TOS managed to escape that overly optimistic future cause it was the 60's and Gene wasn't really the big boss back then even thou he created the show.

Up until TNG where he forced that future into the stories considering the value of Star Trek for the studio.

DS9 just shifted back to reality that TNG twisted.

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"We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm"
George Orwell.

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Ironically, it was that episode that got me into watching the show.

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