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Faye vs Cassandra: when I quit caring about Frasier's romantic prospects.


In S06 E21, "When a Man Loves Two Women, Frasier juggles Faye Moscowitz and Cassandra. It is depicted as him having to actually think about it. Cassandra is older, less intellectually inclined, and worst of all, Frasier wasn't even sure if she liked him. Not a good start at all.

This episode is where I began no longer caring about Frasier's romantic prospects if they wrote it for him to bungle Faye coming back. Faye was best girl.

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I don't know what you are talking about. Frasier chose Faye, and I think Faye later dumped him.

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The Faye/Cassandra story line showed Frasier at his fickle worst. He was middle aged, twice divorced with a young son and he carried on like a horny,, lovesick teen-ager.

He decided to break it off with Cassandra until she told him she was dating someone else and didn’t want to be exclusive. So he just HAD to have her. He chose her but then changed his mind.

He went back to Faye. But he kept referring to her as “Cassandra” claiming she reminded him of his Aunt Cassandra. When Faye met the real Cassandra, that was that!


Frasier had many good qualities, but when it came to women ,he was the worst boyfriend ever.

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As you said he was divorced and he had a son, but his son was with his ex-wife in another city, so it did not affect his romantic life that much. For many women he was as good as being single.

He was well to do and knew how to dress, so it was understandable he could attract women.

But he was, as you said, divorced twice, and Diane left him at the alter, so he had low self esteem in regard to women.

And he did not intend to date Faye, Roz talked him into it, so it was the influence of a bad friend, the "feminist" Roz.

So I guess that is one of his weaknesses, other than being vain, is that he listened to Roz in more than one occasions, who was an unremarkable person has been dumped more often than we would care to count.

He never stepped out on his wives or women he was exclusive with (unlike Niles), his divorces were reasonable considering who he was married to, so "the worst" I think is a bit unfair.

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You bring up good points such as his son living in a different city, so that would not interfere with his romantic life. But that was something I found disingenuous about Frasier.
He lamented being away from his son and how much he missed him. But Frasier himself was responsible for the separation. He did not have to move clear across the country. He surely could have found employment closer to Boston.

Of course it was a sitcom and the intent was to place the character in a new setting with new characters. If Frasier stayed near Boston, the audience would expect to see the Cheers gang always popping in for a visit.

Maybe not “the worst” boyfriend. He sure knew how to date well with fancy dinners, wine, opera and the theater. AlthoughI would prefer a beer and a ballgame myself.

But he was very immature for his age and never seemed to learn from his mistakes or two failed marriages. He still saw women as bodies to jump into bed with on the first date. He never got to know any of these women and still was disappointed that he couldn’t find love. He wasn’t looking for love, he was looking for sex most of the time.

Taking romantic advice from Roz surely was the worst, I agree. Even after she had her baby she still had an endless parade of men in her bed too. Wonder how she found time to parent little Alice. She worked full time and spent her spare time chasing men.

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At one point he had three women coming over, possibly on consecutive nights, but it was stupid. He didn't date like a man trying to find the woman he wanted to spend the rest of his life with. He dated like an immature idiot. His problems were almost always of his own making. Romantically, every script was the same.

And otherwise every script was the same. "Oh, look! Frasier acts like a pompous ass and gets his comeuppance in the final act! Oh, look! It happened again! Oh, look! It happened again!"

At least in the zombie episode, where he's trying to scare Bulldog, it was a little different. As I remember, anyway.

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That one I don't think was entirely Frasier's fault, he was actually quite sweet, trying to get Sherry back with his father, even they just ruined 2 of his dates.

The only time I found Frasier a bit unbearable, in terms of relationships with women, was in S06E03, that "Why don't you step over my father and help yourself with some wine" sequence, that was both hilarious and disturbing, and showed Frasier I think in the most ugly light.

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