Anyone else ever get tired of Shawn's drama? - Boy Meets World (1993) Discussion

[–] TrekBeatTK 10 years ago

I totally agree. In the last two years I missed fun stupid Shawn who was always a bit dramatic, but it was never that bad. He got waaaaayyy too moody later on.

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[–] Livana_Faolan 10 years ago

A-ha! Another, "Northern Exposure," fan.

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[–] Nike316 10 years ago

He became a little redundant towards the end of the show. One time in particular, is when he claimed going into the service with Angela's dad was best for him, because he had no support from anyone, when he already went through a lonely phase after his dad died, and the Matthews family became the solution for Shawn, post hiatus.

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[–] Hitman84 10 years ago

Yep, it got a little old. I enjoy the earlier episodes a lot more, toward the end it was either about Shawn's drama and feeling sorry for himself or Corey and Topangas relationship which got pretty old too after awhile. It was a much better show before they got into their Jr/Sr years.

Plum near cut his head in two mmmmm hmmmmm

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[–] Avatar19 10 years ago

If you see Season 1, it was mentioned that Shawn lived in the same neighborhood as Cory. In Season 2, the writers decided to change it up and had him living in a trailer park. They just kept adding on more convoluted plots to his family. I can't believe you left off that it turned out that Virna wasn't his real mother, but an unnamed dead stripper.

As far as I'm concerned, I prefer silent vice to ostentatious virtue.

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[–] Ghostwriter14 10 years ago

If you see Season 1, it was mentioned that Shawn lived in the same neighborhood as Cory. In Season 2, the writers decided to change it up and had him living in a trailer park.

This actually wasn't an out-of-the-blue change. In the first season Christmas episode, where Cory and Shawn were bragging about how many presents they were getting that Christmas, Shawn was continually acting a bit squirrel-y and Alan finally mentioned to Cory that Shawn's dad had gotten laid off. I think we were supposed to assume that after a while they had lost the money they needed to be able to stay in their home and had to go to the trailer park.

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[–] MacsDuster 10 years ago

When I was little I couldn't help but feel sorry for him, but as I watched the reruns I would continuously think "stop whining already." What frustrated me most was his constant complaining that he didn't have anyone, and yet he had a best friend who never left his side, a girlfriend who gave him chance after chance, a half-brother who made repeated attempts to bond with him, and Cory's family literally offered to adopt him. I always loved Shawn, but the melodrama got to be too much sometimes.

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[–] sarahkellysens 10 years ago

YES he was so whiny he was one of the least appealing characters to the show in my opinion. Didn't find any attraction in him :P

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[–] deem_bastille 10 years ago

drama happens to everyone, they are life experiences that turn out to build our character into adults. it is not the experiences really, it is how you react to them and grow from the experience. him bawling 'I am really screwed up dad...' right before you know what--- it's a little too touchy feely for a growing boy.

however, that being said, I do agree with you that he was a pathetic douche sometimes. get over yourself and get some psychological help. especially with the hugging cult -- why did they not get him serious help when that happened?

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[–] blaque108 10 years ago

I have to agree OP. I used to always say to myself as I watch the show that Shawn have a lot of problems if its not one thing its another. He needed a therapist or something. Corey and his family was there for him and even let Shawn stay with them that one time but I guess that wasn't enough.

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[–] alexaw9 10 years ago

Well, the "I'm real screwed up dad" was understandable, not too touchy feely. He was seeing his father for the first time in years and had his father and his brother there like a family, and his father was for the first time really going to stay there with him and be a dad to him. That's emotional regardless of how old you are.

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[–] GorillazButter 10 years ago

He was whiny but most of those episodes were good ones so I can't say it really annoyed me. Cult Fiction is a classic, as was the one where he and Cory got drunk. The poetry stuff I didn't like but in the later seasons all of the characters were more annoying. Eric being an idiot, Topanga worrying about her and Cory's relationship in every other episode, Cory becoming more Woody Allen-y.

Somebody mentioned he needed a therapist, didn't he get one at the end of drunk episode? Shawn talks to Feeny about getting help but it might've just been AA meeting. Can't remember.

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[–] deem_bastille 10 years ago

Somebody mentioned he needed a therapist

that was me as well as other people. and getting A therapist for ONE problem ONE time is hardly the right thing to do for Shawn. and the people at an aa meeting are different than licensed people. and talking to feeny about getting help does not mean he got the help.

the point we made about him needing therapy or some sort of guidance was that if it wasn't one thing it was something else that turned the show into a shawnavention. They made a point having Shawn join the cult as opposed to Cory or Topenga. They were relatively grounded people who had parents who gave a shi7 about them.

I have to say it, Shawn didn't get his act together until the Matthews baby was born. THEN is when he started to buckle down and give a shi7 about his life and others.

His dad being in his life only made him worse, I think.

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[–] banders46 10 years ago

They definitely played up Shawn's whiny factor in the last couple of seasons. Like in the episode when his dad ends up dying, he keeps saying things like, "I'm just like him. I can't get close to anyone!" His dad just had a heart attack, but he's worried about being too much like him. Anyway, he should know that side characters on sitcoms always have crummy dads.

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[–] blaque108 10 years ago

I know right and I hated how he did Jack telling him "i'm not a welfare kid" or whatever. The father asked Jack stepfather for some money for Shawn that is blessing that the stepfather helped Jack to help Shawn. If I was Shawn I would be thankful. I will say Topanga was a close 2nd she was too whiny especially in the later episodes she was always so hard on Corey about their relationship she just needed to chill and just let things go. She was so uptight.

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[–] banders46 10 years ago

Or how about when he drops out of Cory's wedding and then interrupts it to have a fight about how he and Cory aren't going to be best friends anymore?

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[–] Death163 10 years ago

So someone not being level headed when there father is dying equals them being whiny now???? You people are seriously hypocrites if any of the things that happened to Shawn happened to you at the age his character was you'd be just as screwed up yet all you can do is judge his character and call him whiny for having serious emotional problems and a seriously screwed up childhood get a life.

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[–] banders46 10 years ago

Well, that's just it. We're judging a character, not a person.

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[–] deem_bastille 10 years ago

people get so wrapped up in the drama of the show that they forget to realize that IT IS A SHOW. at the end of the day their personas are dropped and they become their own selves.

and this thread IS about judging/discussing a character.

my problem with shawn is that he is constantly whining and obviously deeply troubled. however, he never EVER sees a counselor at school or anywhere else. he TALKS about getting help when he takes a liking to booze. does he? who knows?

his response to anytime thing hits the fan, is to run... whether it is when his mother leaves him [and his father goes to look for her], his father not coming back, the piglet, the cherry bomb, the hugging cult, him being automatically blamed by alan for whenever cory was caught doing something worng, the college woes, the entire angela 'make up your mind' fiasco, his father dying, angela maybe going with her father...

his woes either had something to do with what HE did or with what people did to him either directly or inderectly. and there comes a point in time to realize that the world does not revolve around you and to stop taking things so personally.

OH THANK YOU GOD! THANK YOU SO BLOODY MUCH!!! Basil Fawlty

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[–] Death163 10 years ago

It doesn't matter if its a character or a person it still doesn't make it right to judge him based off of the horrible things that happened to him most people would have reacted a lot worse then Shawn Hunter ever did if those things happened to them I mean the worst things I ever saw him do was fight with Cory during Cory's wedding, lightly push Angela while drunk and fight with Jack while drunk that's about it no drug abuse or suicide threats or actions no bullying or beating anyone up no taking tons of pills to deal with things worst he ever did was get a little emotional and with drown.

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[–] deem_bastille 10 years ago

that was one sentence. and withdrawn is one word...

now onto my response...

I am not judging him good or bad. I am commenting on how poorly he continued to handle many things that happened to him. when younger it was more or less understandable. but seeing how his mother ran, then his father, then mr turner goes mysteriously away and cory becomes engaged to Topanga... is what gets to me. he is constantly pissed off at these people for 'leaving him' but what does he do when the shi7 hits the fan? sometimes it does not even immediately effect him... he runs, too!

I have said it before and I will say it again... he should have been in some sort of therapy in more than a 'talking about it' basis for one episode.

you don't think the cherry bomb was bad? that was where I began to lose respect for him.

OH THANK YOU GOD! THANK YOU SO BLOODY MUCH!!! Basil Fawlty

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[–] Death163 10 years ago

Maybe he ran when the sh*t hit the fan because that's all he was ever taught by his parents what did his mother do when things got tough? she ran what did Chet do when she ran? He ran what other way to deal with things was Shawn supposed to know????

I think the issue is that you simply can't feel sorry for Shawn because his childhood and upbringing was a lot worse then your own you didn't go though the issues he did so it comes off to you as him just being annoying because you don't understand what parent abandonment feels like to a child or what poverty can do to a child.

True he should have been talking to someone but as someone who's had a similar childhood and upbringing it's not simply that easy I wish I could just walk into a therapist office and spill my guts and be OK but it's not that easy for one therapist are extremely expensive most just hand out pills like there candy rather then actually listening to people I've met very few therapist that could ever agree with another therapist or that could ever admit there wrong most have very big ego's and think there diagnoses is the only one that could possibly be right then you add in the fact that having a mental illness is still something that is very much looked down upon in our society go see a shrink for depression and have people find out and they will be calling you a "nut case" and just about patting you down for anything you could possibly commit suicide with you take all of those issues into account and it's very hard for someone who needs mental help to actually get it.

Not only that the only real supporting people Shawn seemed to have in his life was Jack everyone else seemed to either not understand him, ran from him or in the case of Cory wanted to always push him to do what he wanted to do like going to college when Shawn was fine with the photo job or going to NY when Shawn would probably have been just fine at Pennbrook university until he graduated Jack was the only one who actually seemed to never judge Shawn never turned his back on him and simply wanted to help Shawn do what Shawn wanted to do as well as getting him help.

I have a fuzzy memory and don't really remember any cherry bombs did this happen in the early seasons???? If so they were just kids a cherry bomb isn't anything to freak out about unless it's actually used to hurt someone.

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[–] deem_bastille 10 years ago

THAT IS MY POINT!! he was doing what he was taught!! I am not holding that against him when he was younger, in particularly a minor. but when he entered college he should have seeked some therapy.

and yeah, there was a cherry bomb. when he lit it, freaked out and then mailed it in the mailbox outside mr matthew's grocery store. it exploded and all the matthew's paid bills never maid it to their destinations. their electricity was cut off at the end of the episode.

they are just kids??

are you for real???

would you say that to derrick Robbie's parents???
james bulger's??
tiffany eunick's??

these are all children killed by boys and their defenses were along the lines of 'they're just kids' and 'boys will be boys'!

what would you say to the 'aunt diane' victims left alive and their families? she was in pain so it's okay that she drove the wrong way on the Taconic, and killed 8 people including herself?? her son is left with permanent brain damage and the father is clinging to reality.

and since you can't foresee the future and discover that 'no one will get hurt if I light this little ole cherry bomb', then you should not light it to begin with!!

my point is that with all he has done, he has not learned from his mistakes. he never stopped running away from the problems he either created himself or was an innocent bystander to. he never stopped until Joshua was born. and even then...

OH THANK YOU GOD! THANK YOU SO BLOODY MUCH!!! Basil Fawlty

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[–] Death163 10 years ago

That's what we all do as children and young adults we do as we were taught by our parents if your parents teach you right from wrong and morals then chances are your going to know what's right and wrong and what's moral and what isn't if they don't and simply run away then chances are that's what your going to do that's not Shawn's fault he did the only thing he knew to do to deal with his issues.

I've already explained to you why it isn't easy to find a good therapist there are many issues involved in it including being able to afford one remember Shawn was just a poor trailer park kid with no family to help him out (other then jack) so tell me how he's supposed to be able to afford a therapist that charges out the a$$ by the hour????? and even if he could find one who's to say that therapist is any good? and wouldn't just pump him full of drugs and ignore him????

That happened in what the 1st or 2nd season???? Your sitting there judging a pre teen kid as a criminal because he blew up a mail box with a cherry bomb by mistake was anyone hurt? Did the Matthew's simply not go to the electricity office in the morning and get it turned back on???? Seriously you're acting like you never did anything really stupid as a child.

Then you go on to compare Shawn harmlessly blowing up a mail box by mistake to people who killed others????

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[–] !!!deleted!!! (15363496) 10 years ago

Valdosta rocks, but it's no Tallahassee.

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[–] Death163 10 years ago

Valdosta is the best high school sports team in the nation and probably the world Tallahassee isn't bad but it doesn't compare.
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