So that would make you 10???? grow up,..this kinda' stuff goes on all the time, and in my book if yer 18 yer fair game!!!!!!!! If you're two consenting adult's,...yes 18 is adult, like it or not,...then what the heck??? I've been with older and younger women,...it really has noting to do with age but more with Lust, desire, whatever you want to call it,...this is 2005 so quit with the old 'valley girl' ewwwwww's and oh so gross, etc. If ya' didn't like the movie, why bother writing about it??? Or maybe you need some good 'WOOD!'
Nice comment about wood. You're harping on the 'eews' of people like they need to grow up but you act like a dumb ass. I agree about the 'eews' and I don't see what difference it makes whether it's 16 with 36 or 16 with 16 and I think people are brainwashed thinking the latter is acceptable and the former not but you are a vulgar jackass.
Well what an adult is is relative. 16 is legal in most states and considered a young adult. 16 and 17 is considered adult for having certain jobs, consenting to sexual activity usually with anyone of any age above and maybe a few other things. 18 is the age where you are assumed to be fully capable of handling your own affairs and are now fully legally responsible for your actions but that is only one type of adult and ironically you're not adult enough yet to buy booze and you well know that's 21. You're also not adult enough to be president until you're 35. Everyone thinks that you're an adult at 18 but that's not entirely true. It's all relative and 18 is just one type of adult.
You aren't a child after puberty but the lingo in the courts in the USA is different from real world speak and they call you a child by default if you are under 18 but child here doesn't really mean child. A child to them is basically someone too stupid to think for themselves. This is basically the thinking in the court. You could be 60 and if the judge thinks you are mentally incompetent you are considered a 'child'. The difference between a 60 year old and a 16 year old is that the 16 year old is considered mentally incompetent by default. When they call the 16 year old child they don't really mean a child.
When ignorant people say things like 'she's only a child' they are not speaking real language but are just parroting what they heard elsewhere. Teenager and adolescent was made up probably in the last 100 years or so. I'm not sure exactly the real truth as to why but I would bet everything I have that there is money behind it.
In some states you can even be married at 15 with parental consent. For others generally marriage is allowed with parental consent at 16. Otherwise it's 18, which is twisted to me cause in my state I can jump in the sack with a 16 or 17 year old legally but if I want to do right and get married it's not allowed. Oh well. But that's just me. A lady's man like yourself probably isn't concerned about that.
by - ponderer1982 on Fri Feb 17 2006 13:31:15
I don't think that's what the thread starter was talking about:
1)She was NOT 18 when they filmed this movie, she was only 16 or 17
16 is legal in most states and 17 in others. 18 being the age of consent is only law in a minority of the states in the USA. But this is a movie and could be considered exploitation, which is illegal, but since nothing is really happening I don't see how it is illegal. In my state 16 is legal but not if I am in a position of authority. So if it's some chick I meet somewhere it's not illegal but if I were her manager at her job then it would be illegal and she'd have to be at least 18 in that case. So, maybe movies are similar cause it's business. Come to think of it all this being a minor and being a "child" is really just business, too.
2) 2005 has no relevance to this movie since it was made in 1992
I don't get this. So you can have a supposed 1992 attitude in 2005 because the movie was in 1992 when people had this attitude (even though they still do now)? You are allowed to act like a certain year even though it's 13 years later because it was something 13 years ago (at the time of your post) even when you wouldn't have that attitude if it happened now? That doesn't make any sense to me.
In that case hearing about a 14 year old with someone over 18 in the past shouldn't bug anyone that it would bother if it happened now cause it wasn't illegal before it became illegal.
It's all a bunch of BS anyway. Marriage is only allowed at 18 so it's gotta be 18 for me anyway so why should I give a crap.
PS. It's true, this does go on more often than people realize even with guys 20+ years older. Not all the time but secret trysts happen more than probably most people know or would want to know. Face it, you are basically an adult and are told you aren't at that age, but you are and if you don't act like it it's not because you are biologically predisposed to being an immature idiot - it's the fault of the upbringing and the culture surrounding us and the lack of expectation to be an adult or when they are told to be grown up they are denied adult responsibilites at the same time. This was true when I was 16. I wanted to be a man so bad I could taste but the powers that be wouldnt help or let me be. Say a 16 year old female is attracted to some guy who is 35 or in love if she knows him. She wants him and doesn't care (this sort of happens to me now and again - at least they look like they could be 16 or 17. I never asked and never entertained because of the complications but it's not cause I have a problem with it - if she's 15 and looks good and I feel attracted to her I'll admit it. If that makes me sick then so be it) What may (or may not) stop her if the guy lets her is being aware of public perception, parents and other complications that impact negatively on them and on the situation. It would be the same if say the age of consent were 30 and you were 25 and like someone who was 34 but you didn't do anything about it because of your conditioning or because you were afraid of being "lynched" (actually the older one gets the worst of it). This may sound silly but thats because people aren't conditioned that way. If it were the case it would be logical that you are still a child until you are 30. Get some pseudo science behind the argument, get some laws in place wait a generation or two and BAM all of a sudden it seems obvious and anyone who likes someone under 30 is a perv. This is all helped by the cooperation the system gets from parents who would love nothing more than to keep their babies babies for as long as possible, so this scam works brilliantly. Like I said before, I am positive there is money behind this. So, you tell people they are something they aren't or not something they are and you get people who became schizo cases because of a fu-ed up culture.
Drew Barrymore looks grown up to me in this movie. Hubba hubba.
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