That was referring more to Hitler than to Vlad. Even if his (Vlads') actions helped to defend against the Ottomans, they were still barbaric beyond anything the Ottomans themselves did, and his brother Radu the Fair, who embraced Islam completely while a hostage, never turned out remotely like Vlad did. Indeed, their reactions were polar opposites, from all accounts: Radu made the best of his situation, and eventually became a Muslim convert, while Vlad fostered anger and resentment against his father (for abandoning them), the Ottomans (for holding them captive) and Radu (for defecting to the enemy). That anger became his main motivation throughout his whole life. He didn't do anything 'heroic', he was just a vicious nut in a position of authority who loved torturing prisoners, and was able to intimidate others through the unprecedented scope of his depravity.
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tony-mounthigh
11 years ago
I agree with you LukeNoonan, Embrace Islam or die as an Infidel. On the off chance you survive and resist in kind...be labelled a vicious nut.
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BakedEel
11 years ago
Totally - studies show that a lack of Islam in your life leads to mass impalement and peoples' turbans being nailed to their heads. You're a clever chap, Tony.
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eurostar-427-360396
11 years ago
Interesting how Vlad III (Vlad the Impaler) was against the Ottoman's when his father (named Vlad Dracul) was FOR the Ottomans. Vlad the Impaler was appointed the throne of Wallachia by the Ottoman's actually, but he rebelled against them because he HATED Mehmed II.
Vlad the Impaler was held hostage also, he learned the Quran and became fluent in Turkish while he was hostage. But he still fought in the name of Christianity.
He wasnt THAT barbaric though. His favorite form of execution is impalement, so he impaled Ottomans and put their heads on stakes on both sides of the road leading to Constantinople. It was a tactic he used to inflict extreme fear. It worked many times.
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BakedEel
11 years ago
I bet it worked, and that wasn't all he did to prisoners. And you're seriously saying you don't consider that barbaric? I'd love to try what you're smokin', bud.
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eurostar-427-360396
11 years ago
LOL You obviously dont know history if you think that is barbaric. Educated yourself before making that statement.
You obviously dont know how brutal Chinese Torture is, or what Hitler did in his "experiments", or what the Spanish did during the Inquisition, or what the Mayan's used to do in rituals. I can keep going.
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BakedEel
11 years ago
Please do, it's hilarious!
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eurostar-427-360396
11 years ago
Hitler used to cut open pregnant women up without anesthesia to experiment on them. Mayans ripped out hearts of people on a pedestal and showed them their own hearts right before they took their last breath, then cut their heads off and throw it down the stairs leading up to the temple. Thats just scratching the surface. The Assyrian people 6000 years ago were the most brutal warriors in history of mankind.
I dont see how its hilarious, but i can see what kind of person you are from your post and you dont deserve more of my time. Go back to school and then we can talk.
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BakedEel
11 years ago
Hitler didn't do that, Josef Mengele did, and I know what the Mayans and Aztecs did to their sacrifical victims, willing or otherwise. What's hilarious is that you think any of this means Vlad the Imapler's actions were reasonable ones.
To be honest, mate, I think you're a bit simple. Watching Discovery documentaries about History's Worst This or That does not an education make.
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eurostar-427-360396
11 years ago
Hitler ordered it.....Josef Mengele? Good job, you can use Wikipedia. LOL
You know what the Mayans and Aztecs did? Thats an easy sentence to type, but it doesnt mean you really know it. Too much talk, but no bite.
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BakedEel
11 years ago
Are you being serious? Okay, if you want to believe you're more intelligent than I am, I won't stop you.
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Ten-Inch-Toni
11 years ago
You're really embarrassing yourself here. If you wish to discuss barbaric acts throughout history and choose to bring up Hitler your opening statement would have garnered more respect if you had mentioned that Mengele had a free hand under Hitler's regime rather than claiming that Hitler himself cut open pregnant women.
Why don't you mention that Mengele would nail Jewish father's tongues to tables and then torcher the man's wife or children to test whether the man would rip his own tongue out to save his family or would self-preservation kick in and he'd just watch them slowly die an excruciating death?
It's clear you don't really know what you are speaking of in depth and that's fine. But if you are going to take on other people here you should be able to back up your comments with actual facts.
Vlad was a barbaric killer. Did he have just cause? Very possibly. Was he better or worse than other infamous and brutal men and actions in history? Clearly, that's debatable. But you can't have a good clean debate when the conversation deteriorates into insults.
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Ten-Inch-Toni
11 years ago
All of your statements are true but that doesn't detract from the barbarism of Vlad the Impaler. You yourself say he did it to strike fear, which was successful. Why not just kill his enemies and dump them in a ditch? Or dispose of their carcasses in a less flamboyant manner? Because it wouldn't have the same effect as his act of barbaric impaling, right?
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