I can only image how deeply awkward it was to watch that scene with an audience; the lieutenant asking them questions was odd enough already. It was, however, a hot scene thanks to the sexy ladies.
I would love to see a version without Keitel in the shot.
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that scene is totally cut from the R rated version. When I saw the uncut version I was really shocked by that scene; it is pretty nasty, but it makes the film stronger somehow..
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2 things about this scene that i don't believe have been mentioned: 1. the actresses are mixed up on the cast listing - Bianca Hunter was actually the driver, but she's listed as "Passenger." 2. the funny thing is, since the passenger was turned around during the entire masturbation part, from what she heard, she thinks the driver actually DID actually give him oral...! could you imagine the driver trying to make the passenger believe she really didn't? "no, really, i didn't touch him at all" ... "yeah right!"
sharesince the passenger was turned around during the entire masturbation part, from what she heard, she thinks the driver actually DID actually give him oral
not in full screen!
shareHim not blowing his load inside the car or getting them to actually suck him off serves a major point. He is on a power trip and knows that they can't do anything because he is a cop and that it will be their word against his and the cops would more than likely have his back.
If he did get them to suck him, it would have been forced oral sex and on top of that had he actually left any DNA evidence behind - he could have been easily done and picked up for the crime.
I imagine when he did climax, he let it hit the ground or maybe the car door because those two girls would have been in way too much shock to gather the evidence. On top of that, if you pay close attention to the scene, it looked rather murky as if it had been raining - so evidence washed away.
But from a guy's point of view - it was sort of hot in a domination sort of way but disturbing at the same time because how would you react if somebody had tried to do that to your girlfriend, daughter or sister? Not something you'd indulge in unless your partner was into kinky dirty games. So there.
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2 simian ninja - first of all, how would one even KNOW whether one's partner was really into kinky games and 2 - even if they were, wouldn't this type of thing that the lieutenant did STILL be wrong AND hurtful, not to mention, and with good reasons, criminally offensive?
By the way, I wonder if the two girls from the car ever found out that the lieutenant got shot at the end, do you think they would feel grateful?
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In response to J McClane: Yea, but when she turns around, what would she see? The back of her friend's head, blocking the view of the lieutenant's "piece". Could very much look like she was giving him oral from her viewpoint....
shareThe one in the version with Nicholas Cage is hot because the girl initiates it.
This one is creepy. Harvey Keitel is a twisted weirdo.
http://www.indexmagazine.com/interviews/abel_ferrara.shtml
CORY: Can you give me an example of how it changed with Keitel in the lead?
ABEL: Take the scene where he pulls over the two underage girls in their father's car. With Walken as the lead, the lieutenant was going to end up dancing in the streets with the girls as the sun came up. They'd be wearing his gun belt and hat, and they'd have the radio on, you know what I mean? But oh my god, Harvey, he turned it into this whole other thing.
CORY: In the movie, he forces the girls to talk dirty while he masturbates in the driver's window.
ABEL: Yeah, he just whipped it out. And that was his live-in babysitter in the car! I said, "You sure you want to do this with your babysitter?" He says, "Yeah, I want to try something." [laughs]
CORY: Did you consider that shocking at the time?
ABEL: I didn't even know it happened! One take. Bad Lieutenant was a low-budget movie - we didn't even have video assists.
CORY: So you were lucky to have the camera at the right angle.
ABEL: I know. God forbid he moved an inch. But that's what's great about guys like Harvey and Chris. Try taking the camera off them — they were born in frame.
Here's a pic of the two girls...
http://i60.tinypic.com/2roorro.jpg
Which one was Harvey's live in babysitter?
So he really exposed himself in the scene or is that BS?
Holy *beep* if he did!
Okay, rewatched the film again and the driver is the same girl from Trees Lounge that Steve Buscemi and Chloe Sevigny are partying with back at Mike's house. She is the driver not the passenger. Her name is Bianca Hunter and I suspect that she would have been Harvey's live in babysitter at the time because the other girl has an extensive bio which does not include any such information. Bianca has just done a few roles and since Buscemi had worked with Harvey on Reservoir Dogs, it makes sense that she may have made the connection via that association. Just a guess though. She also eventually played one of Mark Wahlberg's six sisters in The Fighter.
Yup, this clinches it... she appeared in Goodfellas (scenes cut) with Lorraine Bracco who was married to Harvey Keitel at the time:
"Throughout her childhood, Hunter focused on becoming a ballet dancer and by age 11 was a member of the Children's Ballet Theater in Carnegie Hall until an injury ended her dancing career at age 15. At 16, she appeared as Madonna's teenage friend in Madonna's Papa Don't Preach video. She later began studying acting at the Lee Strasberg Institute. Acting with Lorraine Bracco, she played the bit part of Karen Hill's best friend in the wedding scene in Goodfellas, but the scene ended up on the cutting room floor. At 21, Hunter auditioned for her role in Bad Lieutenant. After this role, she appeared in Steve Buscemi's independent film Trees Lounge. Hunter had cameo roles throughout the 1990s, her last in 1999 being Ethan Hawke's directorial debut Chelsea Walls. In 2010 she appeared as one of the harpy sisters in David O. Russell's film The Fighter for which she won a Critic's Choice Award for Best Acting Ensemble, as well as nominations from the Screen Actors Guild Awards for Outstanding Performance by a Cast in a Motion Picture and the MTV Movie Awards for Best Fight."
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Cinemax cuts all that scene out of the movie...That aint right!!
Watching tonight, I just noticed that. They left the traffic stop in, then cut it before it got graphic. I bet it had to do with the girls being underage and all -- everyone's super sensitive about that stuff now.
share2 dullatron - why, were people actually a lot LESS sensitive about that stuff back around 1992?
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I think they were less sensitive about underage stuff back then. Things like teacher-student sex ... you saw a whole lot less criminal charges then, and admins would handle it by just quietly telling the teacher to quit or face charges. Priests who abused kids would still get handed off from diocese to diocese. Now everyone's hypersensitive about that stuff, but it's better than being inattentive to it.
sharemost memorable scene in the film
shareThey should have recreated this scene in "The Happytime Murders" (2018)
shareThis is on Amazon Prime now and they cut out the last part of the scene...
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