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The Ecelior After Encountering the ave...


Captain Sulu says "Turn her into the wave" then orders starboard thrusters. The ship is seen turning right, or into the wave. This is a major mistake. I am surprised how no one has caught this!

Port is the left side, starboard is the right side. Ordering a "starboard thruster" is like speeding up the right engines on a four-engine plane. In such a case, that airplane would turn or bank left!

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No offense, but the ship is "Excelsior."

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Agreed.

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And you get an A or a 100 in this grammar test!

My God, have you never made a typo? Of course I know the name is Excelsior!

Why did you not address the points I made?

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Because you can't spell so it is not worth addressing.

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You are a troll, acting and commenting stupid.

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Lol

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Since I didn't have the film to check, I did not make a comment on your point since it would be meaningless. I can't verify the movements, so cannot say if you are correct or not or if there was a reasonable explanation.

As for the spelling; I am an archivist and editor by nature (not profession). I've seen all too many not care if they are spelling or using grammar correctly. These types of errors distract from a person's comments.

And yes, I have made errors, typographically or otherwise. When I make them I try to correct them. It is not uncommon for me to go back and edit posts when I notice an error.

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and it's wave, not ave. WTF is an ave? The Excelsior encountered an avenue?

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Answer the point I made. The ship is turning against the direction ordered. I cannot believe you are correcting grammar mistakes I posted freely, not being paid for posting in here.

Why not hold the director and script writer to the same standard? They are PAID to be correct!

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Because it's a movie. Get a life.

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But if you read the actual message I typed I did not repeat "ave." I typed "wave."

This points out you are a lamebrain with nothing serious to comment.

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The ship has its port, or left, side, pointing towards the wave when it hits. You fire the starboard, or right, thrusters, because that pushes from the right side, turning the ship towards the left. The ship is then facing into the wave.

I am guessing that you would do this because the forward shields are the strongest shields the ship offers.

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It's absolutely insane to say starboard and port in space because you have to manoeuvre in 3 dimensions!
Two thrusters won't do. The Apollo Lunar Module had 4 sets of 4 thrusters in addition to the main rocket.

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This is true. You do have to compensate to ensure you are going in the direction you want to, since you don't have gravity. But, the primary thrust would have come from the starboard.

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To turn right, a front thruster would fire left and a rear thruster would fire right. There are ferries and tugs with rotating props (Z-drive) front and back that do this! Whoever designs Sci Fi ships are stupid.

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But the command was "Starboard thrusters." Not "Starboard. Thrusters."

If the command "starboard thrusters" is given, it means that the thrusters in the starboard side were to be used. So the ship would move left.

On the other hand, the command "Starboard. Thrusters." implies that more than one set of thrusters were to be used. Then your explanation makes logic. Front left thrusters and right rear thrusters firing to move right.

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No it is not insane. Port and starboard refer to sides of the ship, whether you are on one side. Or are you saying that it would also be insane to refer to left and right sides of a spacecraft?

These are terms used in ships and airplanes. Left=port. Right=starboard. Aft=back. Stem=front. Stern=back. They are as seen from the point of view of the crew. What is insane is referring to east, west, north, and south.

Would you also say that using "above" and "below" would also be insane? It would not. As "above" can be "over" the person saying it in one spacecraft even if "above" is "below" to another person in a different spacecraft.

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