10x better than the 2004 version

I over compensate my opinion of the 89 film because there tends to be a much stronger and illogical fan support for the 04 film... and that movie is so bad, it contradicts every bit of reason and logic in my being to hear that people loved it, and beyond that, curse on the great 89 film- and complain about Tom Jane and friends not coming back for the 08 film. Are you kidding? Are Punisher fans really that dumb?

Anyhow, there's a vote going on over on the 04 film board to simply judge whether it's good or bad. If you feel like I do, please add your Bad vote. I'd really like to see the 04 film be judged bad for once; supporting all that is true and right in this world. HEIL DOLPHIN!

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I'll give the 2004 version this, its a good movie, just not a good Punisher movie.

Maybe it helps to have seen the 89 Punisher at a young age... but in looking at this movie in the most objective light, it is not the most poorly-acted, campy, ridiculous piece of crap I've ever seen. Ever. If you insist on saying it's bad, that's fine, that's your opinion. But it is not the most poorly-acted, campy, ridiculous piece of crap you've ever seen. Ever. You are exaggerating probably because you don't understand how to enjoy this kind of film. Yes, it is a bit campy, but so was the 2004 movie. To me, there is so much more to sink your teeth into with the 89 film then the utterly flat, poorly constructed result of Spiderman's success that came out in 2004. But this debate always fascinates me because when I encounter the exact opposite opinion that I hold, it reveals how different people's minds can really be. I feel just as comfortable saying the fan support of the 04 film makes me lose all faith in humanity. Hopefully the 08 film will bring us all together.

I recently watched this again after many years on t.v (the DVD is hard to come by) And even though its a 80's action flick its one of the better ones.

Compared to the most recent punisher flick this is truer to the violence in the comic book, The action sequences are still good with dolph at his best, he even seems to suit the the character of the punisher as a broken man and the scene with L.G. junior in the cell is excellent.

The characters are fleshed out as well, we all know pretty much who everyone is and why there here and doing what there doing right from the start it doesn't attempt any stupid last minute plot twists and sticks to it guns relying on its story and its over the top but gritty fight scenes to sell it self!

Back to the action scenes, there good with the punisher almost being terminator like in his executions but at the same time the director never lets him seem immortal as you see the punisher take injurys and making his get away when things get hot, The highlight of the film is the last 15 mins with the punisher and the mob boss taking on the yakuza in a high rise penthouse.

I would rate this film a solid 7 out of 10 though if you like action flicks 80's stuff you might wanna knock that up to 8.5 outta 10.

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I loved the 89 movie and I thought the 2004 lacked the punishing factor that makes Castle such a badass. He seemed more like a skeemer than a Punisher.

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Just catched this version again the other day -

Thought Dolph had the character down to a T -

Bribing his snitch with alcohol
Living in a Sewer utterly detached from reality in his own little world

I thought Jane did a good job actually but the 2004 film itself was poorly written and directed and Travolta cant act to save his life

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