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this is a mediocre movie...who agrees with me?


i did not find the movie such good,i expected it to be better...

firstly,the scenario is kinda unbelievable,generally it was not boring but in some parts the movie was pushed too far...the directing was not so "electrifying" for a thriller/horror movie...

i gave the movie a 6/10...(maybe i would rate it for 5,5 or smt)

and i was convinced much more from "devils advocate" which had more suspense and seemed to be much more interesting....and pacino scared me much more than de niro as the devil....

anyway.its just my oponion,and i wanted to share it with you,cause yesterday when i finished the movie i just kinda felt un-satisfied....

JOHN

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If only the people who agree with this guy replied to his post (as the post's title clearly asks for), he would have maybe 5 or 6 replies, tops. Mine would not be in them, of course.

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It's good imo but not worth a rewatch since it's not very entertaining, unless if I wanted to see the scenes with De Niro who I thought was excellent. On the other hand I'll probably rewatch Devil's Advocate sometime. 6.0 from me as well.

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Agree. This movie aims higher than Devil's Advocate, but misses, and in the end falls lower. Devil's Advocate aims to entertain and produces a flawed but really enjoyable melodrama. Angel Heart aims at something higher, but lacks the subtlety or wit to achieve its goals. I wanted to love this movie... A slow burn psychological occult film noir set in New York and New Orleans? Yes! But I watched it twice, paying especially close attention the second time, and while Rourke and Bonet in particular deliver excellent performances, De Niro seems terribly uninspired (can't blame him), and the script is clumsy (Angel's bad, fake old-timey dialogue; "I'm from Brooklyn!"; "We ain't all Baptists down here"; "Louis Cyphre"). The twist surprised me when I figured it out about halfway through, and I hoped for an interesting development, but the heavy-handed exposition by Krusemark and Louis toward the end let me down and bored me. Krusemark's flabbergasted description of A Spooky Ritual made me laugh. Really, even though Angel Heart clearly aimed at a more intellectually subtle story than Devil's Advocate did, Devil's Advocate actually deploys its satanic figure with greater finesse: Pacino's devil acts (mostly) not by overt supernatural intervention, but just by tempting Lomax, and profiting from his human weaknesses.

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I found the movie to be a pretensive load of crap.
Dang,if I had to hear him scream "whos the boy" with that horrible over acting.
Anyway, it is just to bad to even break down all horrible things about.

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Is "pretensive" anything like "prehensile"?

I have a particular interest in movies about the devil and demonology. I have a small video sub-library within my video library devoted to the subject, comprising 14 movies and 1 TV show (American Gothic). The Devil's Advocate and Angel Heart are both in it. To each his own, but, while I obviously enjoy them both, I prefer Angel Heart. Speaking for myself, I find the story, based on a novel by William Hjortsbergb to be deeper than a movie that resulted from a pitch meeting. (Interestingly, Hjortsberg also wrote the script for Ridley Scott's Legend, which is also in my collection because Tim Curry was transformed into the best physical depiction of Old Scratch that I have ever seen.) And I think that DeNiro NAILED Lucifer, I mean, Louis Cypher. Speaking as an amateur occult historian, Angel Heart's backstory of debutant witches showing off at high society parties in the 30s and 40s is spot on, giving this movie, for me, deeper verisimilitude than Devil's Advocate. I will say that the creepy, shifting bas-relief sculpture on Milton's wall in Advocate is 'way cool. And I get the point that, in Advocate, we get to see Satan using the process of seduction to tempt his victim. "Vanity! It IS my favorite sin!" But, in Heart, we enter the story in medias res: Johnny Favorite was seduced and damned years before the story begins. Johnny thinks he has found a way to cheat the Satan, by assuming another identity; but nobody cheats Satan. Johnny goes to hell. Keanu Reeves (forget his character's name) comes up with the solution of suicide, which is far less clever--actually, pretty ham-fisted--and overlooks the fact that suicide is a mortal sin and suicides go to hell, which delivers him into Milton's power, so Milton can bring him back and keep trying till Keanu at last fathers the Antichrist. Same result in both movies, but I prefer the path to the result in Angel Heart.

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"mediocre" is too good for it. Maybe it would've made a decent ½-hour Twolight Zone episode.

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If you are want flash and explosions...stay away from this movie. If you want a slow burn, like good acting and direction, perhaps some existentialism...this may be your kind of flick.

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