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This movie was flawless until...


...the very last two minutes, where Charlie Sheen gives his pretentious, glaringly obvious, woke stoner logic monologue about the reality of war. “We weren’t fighting the enemy, we were fighting ourselves.” Absolute cringe. The whole speech sounds like something Napoleon Dynamite or Bill & Ted would write. It’s sad how such an intelligent and thought provoking film could end on something that felt like a blazed 8th grader wrote it. Did the studio demand it go in at the last minute or something?

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Platoon is one of my favorite movies, I never had any issues with the speech at the end as I think he describes perfectly the culture of the U.S., not just the Vietnam conflict. I've lived in several other countries and some have completely different cultures and when I came back to the U.S. it's glaringly obvious that We ARE constantly fighting ourselves.

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You're one of those gung ho war hawk republicans or something?

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A leftard calling the repuplicans warhawks. That's rich beyond belief.

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yes leftards start this war and right wings end it hahahahahahahah.

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This was the most retarded summary of a film I’ve ever read

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well that is probably because there was no summary at all, you should probably look up what a summary is.

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And this was the most retarded response on a message board ever. Congrats, you won it

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All of his voice-overs were ridiculous; laughably trying to sound all philosophical, insightful, profound, and deep.

And why was he writing letters to "grandma" anyway? Who over the age of 6 does that? It would have made a lot more sense if he'd been writing to a parent or girlfriend. The way he was writing was the way someone would write to someone they're particularly close to. In most cases, by the time a male is an adult, his grandmother is only seen during e.g., family gatherings such as on Thanksgiving.

If he'd been raised by his grandmother then that would be a different story, but since he gives his grandmother messages to pass on to his mother, that doesn't seem to be the case. And I can imagine his mother would be pissed; getting second-hand messages from her mother or mother-in-law instead of letters directly from her own son.

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I haven't seen the movie in years, but IIRC his parents didn't want him to volunteer for duty, and he stopped talking to them. That's why he was writing to his grandmother—he probably had a good relationship with her growing up.

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"I haven't seen the movie in years, but IIRC his parents didn't want him to volunteer for duty, and he stopped talking to them."

I've seen it many times, most recently being last night, and there was nothing in the movie that indicated nor suggested that. If he'd stopped talking to them then he wouldn't have been telling his grandmother to tell them things, like "Tell Mom I miss her too."

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